I got the glock some competiton

[Jose]

Get a .40 to 9mm conversion barrel from lone wolf.

I've got two 23's, and two 9mm conversion barrels and they both run excellent. You will need 9mm mags though. In fact, I haven't shot .40 out of either for quite a while.

I've also got a .357sig barrel and a .22 conversion kit, so that gives me one gun (a 23) that can fire 4 calibers.

I'm sure m&p has something similar to this if you buy a .40, so this info is only if you were gonna sell the glock because you couldn't shoot 9mm.


Or sell the 23 to me for cheap. I'd like one in another color than black.

This! I've been wanting to do the same thing with a 23.

[Cobraman]

If your a good shooter, it doesn't matter what platform you use. I shoot the same with my 23/M&P/1911. Good shooters learn to adapt and not bitch about the grip angle? Just saying.

Sure that's cool for range toys, but if I were a racecar driver I wouldn't practice with a different car then I raced. I like to practice how I play and I feel practicing with two different platforms would be detrimental- especially with the different grip angle between the two. That doesn't mean I can't adapt and shoot either well, but I feel better served choosing one. Of course...training doesn't mean anything anyway so I guess I shouldn't care

[Cobraman]

Oh, and wkdblkgt what days do you have off next week? Come shoot homie

[AnthonyS]

If your a good shooter, it doesn't matter what platform you use. I shoot the same with my 23/M&P/1911. Good shooters learn to adapt and not bitch about the grip angle? Just saying.

the 1911, Sigs, Walthers, Springfields, S&W, Beretta, HK, etc. all share a similar grip angle making sight alignment similar for all of them. I can shoot fine with a Glock, but thanks to the grip angle with any other gun in my hand in a similar position I'd be shooting at the ground. I know Glock fan boys won't ever admit it, but the Glock grip angle is a colossal fuck up. It is the sole reason I will never own one again. I can literally pick up any pistol besides a Glock point and shoot in the dark and nail a target center of mass at close range without looking at the sights, except for a Glock....

The Glock may be the most ingenious handgun ever made for a lot of reasons, but the grip angle is pure shit. I've read the book and about his experiments with two sticks in his basement. Well drunken European Army execs shouldn't be allowed to select pistol specifications in some guys basement with not one firearm present. It's a an amazing story how a machinist broke into the firearms industry. He nearly got it all right.... all except for one major detail.

[Cobraman]

Bro....you mad?

[Moose242]

Most ingenious handgun handgun design? Its uses John Browning's 100+ year old short recoil tilting-barrel operation, a polymer frame pioneered by HK, and a striker. Nothing about the gun is or was ground breaking.

[Cobraman]

Most ingenious handgun handgun design? Its uses John Browning's 100+ year old short recoil tilting-barrel operation, a polymer frame pioneered by HK, and a striker. Nothing about the gun is or was ground breaking.

Is the vp9 worth my money?

[Moose242]

Worth $431 for sure.

[Cobraman]

Worth $431 for sure.

Lol how about the $599 plus tax I would pay for it?

[Moose242]

Certainly has a lot of features for a sub $600 gun. Patrick and I shot the hell out of the demo/t&e unit HK sent me and we liked it.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Certainly has a lot of features for a sub $600 gun. Patrick and I shot the hell out of the demo/t&e unit HK sent me and we liked it.

I liked it so much that I tried to buy the one you have. I think I a shopping for one, just have to get a deal on it.

[Cobraman]

I want a compact

[War Machine]

must be something in the air, I just picked up a shield for 359 on PSA

[YALE]

must be something in the air, I just picked up a shield for 359 on PSA

That is below dealer cost.

[Cobraman]

They should just give those guns away lol