LEO's What were they thinking?

[Steve]

No worries, and thanks for clearing that up here and via PM. I have had to pass pretty extensive background/drug tests to gain employment in the past, so i know what you're saying. And for the record its not just suits but all types of higher end menswear......just in case anyone needs anything

Speaking of, you don't have a Linux background do you? This is that job I was telling about if you can pass the background.

[Machx2]

but how is it a lawful order if she was legally standing in her yard filming?

That would be a defense she could use. I believe you should be able to do as you please in your own yard. But she started on the side walk and moved back after he said something. The woman is just as ignorant as the officer. Point the spot light on her and be done with it Lol.

[Machx2]

Another thing. The officer had a horrible attitude from the begining. If he really felt she was a danger he could have just walked up to her and talked to her like a human being.

[stevo]

You always take everything I say to heart.

I don't know you, I just get my information on what you post.

It has nothing to do with where I work.

That is your opinion, others may disagree.

What charges are you going to place on him?

Violation of civil liberties?

He made a legal arrest as far as I see it, wasn't right, but it was legal.

HE SHOULD NOT HAVE ARRESTED HER.

Okay, which is it, a legal arrest, or it wasn't right and he shouldn't have arrested her? Pick one please.

Throwing that out there. Btw did you get that off the Dallas police page. Looks like Rochester does not require any. Doesn't mean he doesn't have any college.

Yes, I did, since you said "that ruins someones whole life". I used the DPD requirements as an example. Considering the whole education requirement process that DPD needs can be done in three semesters, I am still not sure how it would ruin his whole life.

If police officers and prosecuting attorneys were held responsible, eye for an eye, when they are wrong/crooked, they would strive to be right.

Stevo

[Machx2]

I don't know you, I just get my information on what you post.



That is your opinion, others may disagree.



Violation of civil liberties?





Okay, which is it, a legal arrest, or it wasn't right and he shouldn't have arrested her? Pick one please.

Yes, I did, since you said "that ruins someones whole life". I used the DPD requirements as an example. Considering the whole education requirement process that DPD needs can be done in three semesters, I am still not sure how it would ruin his whole life.

If police officers and prosecuting attorneys were held responsible, eye for an eye, when they are wrong/crooked, they would strive to be right.

Stevo

Just because you can pee in a swimming pool doesn't mean that you should. Here is another example of you taking my post out of context.

[Machx2]

The lawful order would have to be legal in the first place.
What does the sidewalk(easement) have to do with the law?
Besides...she obeyed and backed onto to her own property after the officer's orders.
In my eyes, she was not interfering by any means whatsoever.

The order he gave was legal lol. He didn't as her to go rob a bank. I disagree completely with what the officer did. I would have told her she needed to get back. I do believe she was a little too close for comfort in the begining. But once she stepped back she was fine there.

[stangin4lyfe]

The lawful order would have to be legal in the first place.
What does the sidewalk(easement) have to do with the law?
Besides...she obeyed and backed onto to her own property after the officer's orders.
In my eyes, she was not interfering by any means whatsoever.

[stangin4lyfe]

The order he gave was legal lol. He didn't as her to go rob a bank. I disagree completely with what the officer did. I would have told her she needed to get back. I do believe she was a little too close for comfort in the begining. But once she stepped back she was fine there.

Sorry, I was making a change to my post and deleted it before you replied.


I agree completely with what you are saying...the arrest should not have been made.

[stevo]

Just because you can pee in a swimming pool doesn't mean that you should. Here is another example of you taking my post out of context.

Is someone getting arrested in relation to peeing in the pool? The comparison is invalid.

As for the context of that post, it is exactly as read, you said it was a legal arrest, but it wasn't right and he shouldn't have done it. The context of those two statements made by you is very cut and dry. Either it was legal and he should have done it, or it was illegal and he shouldn't have done it.

Stevo

[ceyko]

Is someone getting arrested in relation to peeing in the pool? The comparison is invalid.

As for the context of that post, it is exactly as read, you said it was a legal arrest, but it wasn't right and he shouldn't have done it. The context of those two statements made by you is very cut and dry. Either it was legal and he should have done it, or it was illegal and he shouldn't have done it.

Stevo

I do not see what's so hard about understanding that..

1. The cop was technically allowed to arrest her
2. However, poor judgement was used in that situation and he arrested her

I'm not seeing a disconnect in his statements at all - regardless if I agree or disagree with him.

[danielhv]

So just for my own education... what would have happened if she whipped out a flash light and shined it back in his face like he was hers?

[Broncojohnny]

You can only give someone a lawful order in that situation if they are impeding the investigation of the crime. If that weren't the case then a police officer could just go around ordering people around for the hell of it. Seeing the video, interference is a stretch at best but you can see that grey area some cops like to use just to try to fuck with people when they get their tender feelings hurt. I am always amazed that the police will speak their mind and do whatever they want to other people but the minute someone else returns that attitude, they have the mentality of an eight year and have to retaliate in any way they think they can get away with. It is comforting that we live in the modern age and this sort of bullshit is being brought out of the closet by video cameras, it doesn't belong in this country and never has.

[danielhv]

I wonder if she actually said anything before she started recording or if he just made that shit up... cause he didn't notice her at first, but then all of a sudden he says she made a comment before she started recording... which implies he knew she was there the entire time... But he didn't, cause the first thing he said when he saw her was "you guys need something?" So how could she have said anything before she started recording like the officer implied?

Doesn't make sense.

[D. Lil]

she should have stayed her ass in the kitchen

[forbes]

she should have told him to get off her property w/o a warrant. that would have brought an end to the whole thing