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  • Bcoop- I was speaking in general terms, not singling out specifics. It is not a 100% of the time concept that I introduced. My point is, there are many, many, many families that are broken, and children are often put on the back burner.
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    • Originally posted by FATHERFORD View Post
      Yeah my wife gets a $1k a year for being team leader and an extra period off without teaching kids. She is working towards are masters right now and that will be an extra $2k a year.

      I'm really hoping she can find a college to go teach when she gets her masters and starts making the 65-70k a year she at a minimum deserves.
      A Master's degree won't get her a tenure track position at a college, and she certainly won't start out at $65K.

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      • Originally posted by 89gt-stanger View Post
        Bcoop- I was speaking in general terms, not singling out specifics. It is not a 100% of the time concept that I introduced. My point is, there are many, many, many families that are broken, and children are often put on the back burner.
        It's not uncommon for my wife to have students to come in late, because they are putting in a 2nd shift at McDonald's so their dead beats parents can afford to keep the light bill on.
        "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

        -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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        • Originally posted by 89gt-stanger View Post
          Bcoop- I was speaking in general terms, not singling out specifics. It is not a 100% of the time concept that I introduced. My point is, there are many, many, many families that are broken, and children are often put on the back burner.
          Except in post #86 where you wrote, "kids only fail when parents fail."
          Originally posted by davbrucas
          I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

          Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

          You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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          • Originally posted by slow99 View Post
            Except in post #86 where you wrote, "kids only fail when parents fail."
            Boosh?
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            Originally posted by slow99
            Lmao...my favorite female poster strikes again.
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            You are a moron .... you were fucking with the most powerful vagina on DFW(MU)stangs.

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            • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
              A Master's degree won't get her a tenure track position at a college, and she certainly won't start out at $65K.
              Depends on the college...
              "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

              -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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              • Tenure is one of the bigget problems with the education system right now.
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                • Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                  Except in post #86 where you wrote, "kids only fail when parents fail."
                  Exactly.
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                  • Originally posted by FATHERFORD View Post
                    Depends on the college...
                    You're also the guy that said you'd rather have your crazy neighbor than an HOA. It's highly probable that you're a little more optimistic than the situation calls for.

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                    • Originally posted by CJ View Post
                      Tenure is one of the bigget problems with the education system right now.
                      Very true. No job should be secured against you sucking at it
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                      • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                        You're also the guy that said you'd rather have your crazy neighbor than an HOA. It's highly probable that you're a little more optimistic than the situation calls for.
                        I am fairly knowledgeable in the college subject as my both parents have been program directors/deans/VP of colleges.

                        Being she is educated in science, more specifically Biology, she is in a high demand field.

                        A college instructor is also a less demanding job then k-12. It's strictly a 8-5 job and that gives an employee plenty of time to create lesson plans, grade, set up labs etc.

                        Her starting off at 70 is hopeful I agree, but upper 50's and low 60's is right around the ball park where an individual with a masters in biology would receive.
                        "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

                        -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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                        • Originally posted by FATHERFORD View Post
                          I am fairly knowledgeable in the college subject as my both parents have been program directors/deans/VP of colleges.

                          Being she is educated in science, more specifically Biology, she is in a high demand field.

                          A college instructor is also a less demanding job then k-12. It's strictly a 8-5 job and that gives an employee plenty of time to create lesson plans, grade, set up labs etc.

                          Her starting off at 70 is hopeful I agree, but upper 50's and low 60's is right around the ball park where an individual with a masters in biology would receive.
                          You also didn't say "Upper 50's to low 60's." You said "$65K-$70K." You're also looking at her being a lecturer, not professor, associate professor, or assistant professor, with a Master's degree....IF she can find a job at a university....only having a Master's degree, she may have to stick to a 2 year college.

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                          • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                            You also didn't say "Upper 50's to low 60's." You said "$65K-$70K." You're also looking at her being a lecturer, not professor, associate professor, or assistant professor, with a Master's degree....IF she can find a job at a university....only having a Master's degree, she may have to stick to a 2 year college.
                            2 year or 4 year doesn't matter. Either way it pays quite a bit more money then a high school.
                            "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

                            -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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                            • My wife just got her degree in athletic training. She got hired on at a local high school and while the money is very good with her stipend it is a hell of a lot of hours. She teaches four classes, does treatments before and after school, and then attends most of the sporting events. Leaves the house at 6 am and gets home around 8 pm most of the time. I can see now why they get the summer off.
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                              • With people like this teaching those kids are better off not in school anyway:






                                A friend of mine was a teacher in Chicago before moving back here. Here's what he had to say about it:

                                My experience in Chicago Public Schools as a student teacher, a sub, and a full-time teacher taught me that there is an ocean of difference between what my idea of being a teacher is and what CTU leadership believes. I am not a fan of the strike. I am a fan of selfless dedication; I am a fan of being undervalued and underpaid and knowing that that's what I signed up for; I am a fan of suffering and persevering; I am a fan of waking up every single day and believing that if the kids are not engaged, learning, or making progress then I need to reflect on what it is that I am doing. Call me crazy, but that's I believe. AND I had my position eliminated because of budget cuts and enrollment numbers. I could easily be bitter and want to strike

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