Legality of signage?

[ram57ta]

Ran into this sign posted on a door of a convenience store in Oak Cliff (gas station directly across the street from a check cashing business at Hampton/W.Davis which has had multiple armed robberies in the last 2 years which resulted in shootings that made the news) and wanted to discuss the signs posted and if they hold any weight legally? I've started paying close attention to weapon/gun signs posted at businesses lately since I carry pretty much 24/7. The DPS website doesn't help because I'm not an attorney and reading that shit makes my head shake with its confusing answers. Love to hear what ya'll make of it.

[Fry86]

That sign is useless. There are only certain signs that matter when it comes to cc

Sent from a bathroom

[brandon01rt]

That sign means nothing. My apts had a "no concealed handguns" sign and I always walk right past it. Only way for you to not carry in there is if the owner of the property tell you verbally you cant. Keep in mind some places are no carry zones that do not require 30.06 to be posted.
No 30.06 no care for every where else.

[Shorty]

PROHIBITING HANDGUNS IN A BUSINESS OR OTHER ENTITY
In order to provide notice that entry on property by a license holder with a concealed handgun is forbidden, Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(A) requires that a written communication contain the following language:

"PURSUANT TO SECTION 30.06, PENAL CODE (TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN) A PERSON LICENSED UNDER SUBCHAPTER H, CHAPTER 411, GOVERNMENT CODE (CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW), MAY NOT ENTER THIS PROPERTY WITH A CONCEALED HANDGUN."
"CONFORME A LA SECCIÓN 30.06 DEL CÔDIGO PENAL (TRASPASAR PORTANDO ARMAS DE FUEGO) PERSONAS CON LICENCIA BAJO DEL SUB-CAPITULO H, CAPITULO 411, CODIGO DE GOBIERNO (LEY DE PORTAR ARMAS), NO DEBEN ENTRAR A ESTA PROPIEDAD PORTANDO UN ARMA DE FUEGO."

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Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) further states that a sign must meet the following requirements:

includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

[dmh165638]

That sign is useless. There are only certain signs that matter when it comes to cc

Sent from a bathroom

Especially since they can't spell "Premises" correctly!

[Binky]

As said, those signs are worthless. Has to contain the 30.06 language and size requirements. However, If you are given verbal notice by someone whom you believe to be representing the authority of the property owner, it’s valid notification that the premises is off-limits under 30.06 even if there is no sign posted.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell

[Venix]

Everyone is correct. Without the 30.06 sign, you can walk right in. All that sign is saying is that he would like to get robbed by criminals with guns.

[71chevellejohn]

Especially since they can't spell "Premises" correctly!

LOL - I didn't even notice until you said something.

[Cheezebandit]

Especially since they can't spell "Premises" correctly!

ha ha they had to sound it out ...

[ceyko]

Yeah - 30.06 is generally needed. However, IMO - just like a business owner should be allowed to choose if smoking is allowed and serve large sodas - I think the same for guns.

I probably would not go there, but I'd respect the fact that they still seem to want be robbed a lot.

[CJ]

The 30.06 clause must be posted in full on all entrances to the business. It also has certain text size requirements. If it's not on all entrances or it doesn't meet certain requirements it isn't legally binding. Most businesses are not in compliance. This one is laughable.

[EW]

Don't Ask, Don't Tell

Bingo. Any place that has incorrect signage should not be told to correct it.

[Venix]

Bingo. Any place that has incorrect signage should not be told to correct it.

And inform businesses with correct signage of why you will never shop with them again.

[ram57ta]

Yeah - 30.06 is generally needed.
I probably would not go there, but I'd respect the fact that they still seem to want be robbed a lot.

Its a gas station on a very busy street corner that happens to sell beer. I needed gas. I laughed about the sign and went in anyway with my gun. The employees/owner were the typical middle easterners I expected.

[brandon01rt]

Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) further states that a sign must meet the following requirements:

includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
Please note that while the language provided above may be downloaded for convenience, it does not meet the requirements of Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) and may not be used as a sign.