So who is the next GOP candidate

[4eyedwillie]

Did you look at the popular vote numbers? I wouldn't call 2.3% too much more...

Stevo

Was it enough?

[4eyedwillie]

The war on women you keep referencing doesn't exist. The republicans have no interest in any of the propaganda the left is feeding you (that you're lapping up). Obama accomplished nothing in office, they have to create fear tactics to change the subject.

Are you denying that part of the RNC's platform was no abortions?
Are you denying Akin's comments and the lackluster protest from the RNC only after the huge uproar?
Are you denying Mourdock's?
Open your mind to the fact that many people don't think like you and those things are significant. You can justify it to your self that they're idiots and your the only one that's right, but in reality the real right is somewhere in the middle.

[4eyedwillie]

I'm not going to lose anything, as Ryan would not be "my" candidate. If he were chosen he would be chosen by consensus.

Abortion and women's rights are indeed VERY important, but are not the ONLY matter of importance regardless of what one-issue voters may think.

You as in GOP.
I didn't say they were the only thing that matters. The debt is a one issue voter ideal from the Right. It is important, but to many people there are more important issues.

[The King]

Well you obviously are concerned with the debt, they're not. They're concerned with women's right's, your not that concerned with protecting women's rights judging by your stand on abortion. Am I wrong?

Concerned with the debt, yes you are correct.

I have never posted my stand on abortion, so you are making an incorrect assumption by stating that I am not that concerned with protecting women's rights. However, my stand on abortion is this: no man is even remotely qualified to render an opinion regarding abortion since he can not ever be the one directly impacted. That choice should be reserved only to individual women themselves providing abortion remains legal under U.S. law, although as I stated above I do not necessarily consider myself qualified to render even that opinion.

[CJ]

I'm going to educate you on how little you know. Because someone here needs to do this. The thing I have difficult with is you don't understand republicans, you demagog. I understand democrats. You need to also if you want to have an educated discussion. I would tolerate this kind of ignorance if I was arguing with some unintelligent idiot, but I think there is an opportunity for you to grasp the right's perspective if you're willing to learn.

Are you denying that part of the RNC's platform was no abortions?

The Republican's position is not to eliminate abortion. Unfortunately the sensational fear tactics you cheerlead are misrepresented. The republican's position is not to have state sponsored and tax paid abortions (it is a federal law in place). Most conservatives when asked will tell you they are pro-life, but they all do not wish to push that belief onto citizens. What you are attemping to do is take a candidate (who lost, and was reprimanded by the GOP, who is the party you're attempting to place blame on).

Are you denying Akin's comments and the lackluster protest from the RNC only after the huge uproar?

Are you denying Mourdock's?
Open your mind to the fact that many people don't think like you and those things are significant. You can justify it to your self that they're idiots and your the only one that's right, but in reality the real right is somewhere in the middle.

Why would I deny his comments? He said stupid things, he lost his election. I did not support these stupid ass comments. Just like I'm sure you don't support Weiner sending underaged girls pictures of himself in his underwear. However, unlike yourself I am able to understand that his dumb ass comments, lies, and actions do not represent the democratic party as a whole.

[4eyedwillie]

Bigots? We have a two term black prez. I think we can put that to rest.

And how many from the GOP voted for O? Not that all or even most of the GOP are bigots but there are some. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say I hope that *monday* looses. Or someone should shoot that *monday*. Sound racist to you? It does to me.

And yes there are some on the other side of the aisle also.

[CJ]

And how many from the GOP voted for O? Not that all or even most of the GOP are bigots but there are some. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say I hope that *monday* looses. Or someone should shoot that *monday*. Sound racist to you? It does to me.

And yes there are some on the other side of the aisle also.

6 times more democrats voted for Romney than Republicans voted for Obama, just for your reference. I've heard far more left wing commentators use racist comments against the right than the other way around. I could bury you in soundbites of evidence.

[aggie97]

I told you guys months ago that the GOP wasn't going to push too hard to win because they don't want the coming collapse hanging around their necks. Look for a last minute fix on the fiscal cliff and then let Obama wear the next 2 years of rising unemployment and taxes that are going to cripple our economy. It will be a "well, you got what you asked for" sort of thing. Then the impeachment hearings SHOULD start...not sure they will though.

Looking ahead to 2014 for the house/senate elections and then on to 2016, the GOP has GOT to stop clinging to the religious right's stance on abortion. They need to get over it and make up their minds, are they more concerned with saving babies, or being broke eating out of trash cans when our country crumbles financially. They also need to let go of the fight against gay marriage. Who cares who someone beds down with...let them marry a sheep or a rock if they want to. As long as they are producing, and not taking gov't assistance and paying taxes into the bucket, who cares?

If the GOP is going to recover from this paper defeat and put an end to all the liberal media's coordinated attacks, they need to stop making a big deal of the emotional social topics the center of discussion. If tomorrow, the GOP said, Gays can marry and be equal citizens, women, if you MUST have an abortion, fine, just please consider those that may adopt. Then what if anything does the democratic party have to stand on? NOTHING!!! Take the wind out of their sails, empty their tank of fuel to fight. Give them nothing to complain about. Once the financial situation falls apart and the democrats get blamed for it, the morons will come back to voting for financial solutions.


If the GOP continues offering the most extreme opposite of the leftist dumbasses, all they are doing is putting themselves in a hole to start from. If all the hippies can no longer bitch and complain about GOP candidates wanting to end abortion, then candidates won't have to dance around the question when asked and that 800lb gorilla in the corner can NEVER again be an october surprise.

Now, to fix the voter participation issue, make super tuesday a national holiday so people won't have an excuse not to vote. Have a poll tax (not likely) and the receipt for voting gets a tax credit. proceeds go to the local election boards to fund their additional needs for accuracy and such. Then ID voters...seems even the UN thinks our process needs that improvement! LOL!

Lastly, we need another Reagan. Someone that both sides have NOTHING to question and is wise and well respected for being a great man. Someone who has no ties to ANYTHING the left can get behind to fight against. This person should be a libertarian. The GOP needs to embrace the tea party and the libertarian way of thinking and they will win over the left voters who are always on the fence or just indecisive.

Sadly, I think both sides are too damn stubborn to realize this and we, the citizens, are going to pay the price just as every other sinking nation in the world is experiencing right now....if not worse because the bigger they are, the harder they fall. The great depression will look like a keg party compared to what is coming.

anyway....lots of rantings. yeah, I am pissed about the outcome but all I can do now is protect my family as much as I can from overtaxation and regulation and find a way to weather the next 4 years. As most all smart people will do the same...this economy is going to come to a screeching halt. Then, I am wearing a big " I told you so!" shirt. just as in the dark ages, those with the knowledge and money let the those without, deal with and learn the price of their own ignorance. Time to batten down the hatches and put your seatbelts on. It's going to be a rough ride through socialism.

[jw33]

Rubio and Rand are two great choices from that list. Christie and Jindel are too, but not as much and everyone else is wasting their time. The GOP doesn't need to win in Arkansas, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas. Huckabee, Bush and some of those others if they actually care about the country need to stay home and do their own thing. Yes there is a place for them in the party, but it isn't as a presidential nominee. To even list them makes me question the person who wrote the article.

[Forever_frost]

And how many from the GOP voted for O? Not that all or even most of the GOP are bigots but there are some. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say I hope that *monday* looses. Or someone should shoot that *monday*. Sound racist to you? It does to me.

And yes there are some on the other side of the aisle also.

You evidently missed the Twitter comments calling for Romney's execution and beating and part of it was based on his race and faith.

So, were those comments from the left racist?

[4eyedwillie]

The Republican's position is not to eliminate abortion. Unfortunately the sensational fear tactics you cheerlead are misrepresented. The republican's position is not to have state sponsored and tax paid abortions (it is a federal law in place). Most conservatives when asked will tell you they are pro-life, but they all do not wish to push that belief onto citizens. What you are attemping to do is take a candidate (who lost, and was reprimanded by the GOP, who is the party you're attempting to place blame on).

The GOP platform stated no abortions. Multiple candidates made stupid comments that can be taken to directly tie into this position.

Why would I deny his comments? He said stupid things, he lost his election. I did not support these stupid ass comments.

He lost yes but what hurt the GOP was the lackluster response and the delay in that response. If they would have come out and actively opposed him it would have helped alot. The whole GOP should have been hammering him hard and kicked him out of the GOP. This would have made a difference and would have helped the "there is no war against women" stance.


Just like I'm sure you don't support Weiner sending underaged girls pictures of himself in his underwear.

Yep and he was forced to step down wasn't he?

However, unlike yourself I am able to understand that his dumb ass comments, lies, and actions do not represent the democratic party as a whole.

It doesn't matter if it represents the GOP the GOP didn't actively try and get rid of the ass other than saying that's not us, you should step down, we're not going to give you any money. To many people this means tactic approval. Doesn't matter if it's right or not that's how real life is.

See bolds above

[CJ]

See bolds above

No, it didn't state no abortions, post up proof right now. I guess we're going to have to do this the hard way to get you to learn. You are very ignorant.

[CJ]

crickets.

[bubbaearl]

abortions ???? none of my fucking business . making me pay for it ? fuck that. that is the whole point. pay for your own shit and no one can say squat . but the dems start out with over 40% of the vote bought with food stamps and welfare. it's really pretty easy math.

[stinginstang]

I don't know why you bother CJ.