Why don't they run Lemons at MSR Cresson?

[Murph Tang]

Are we talking about the grey SHO that was probably touching 140mph at TMS? For sure a cheater car...

yeap built motor with cams.

[aggie97]

Are we talking about the grey SHO that was probably touching 140mph at TMS? For sure a cheater car...

chump is full of "cheater cars". The sunday winner at TWS in June was a perfectly straight, 2nd gen RX7 with a sho motor hooked up to a miata transmission. ZERO penalty laps. They beat a team of a few of our instructors in a well driven/prepared e30 if that doesn't say something.

I had a discussion with the promoter about why he wouldn't sign off on our neon with the 22 gallon cell even though they have 2 hour max driver stints and 5 minute fuel stops, but would let that RX7 in the race. He had the nerve to ask me to point out a real $500 car at HIS $500 car race. I then pointed to the cars going by on the straight and saying "yes, no, no, no, no, yes..." Oh, there is $375 neon over there (our second car) and it's blown up. THAT is the car for this race. The aforementioned RX7 was turning 2:05's at TWS which is barely two seconds a lap slower than a mid pack CMC Mustang RACECAR on Toyo RACE tires. Also about the same speed as a well driven spec miata.

To screw with chump, I was tempted to get a T-bird or Fairmont wagon and put the 24 gallon cell in and put a cammed 347 in it with a couple spark plug wires off in tech.

Funny thing is our RPM event we held at MSR houston last month was run the same as the lemon's track config. I had our Camaro ST1 car there doing some shake downs and pulled a couple 1:46.2's on NT-01's and 400+rwhp. Car has a couple issues but was pretty damn fast. Fastest lemons car has been in the 1:55's or 56's.... on street tires! There are more cheater cars out there than just the SHO for sure! Chump should be renamed "Cheatcar"....at least lemons attempts to catch the cheaters!

[aggie97]

Are we talking about the grey SHO that was probably touching 140mph at TMS? For sure a cheater car...

The nudists are in pretty tight with chump car management. They ran the EC class at the TWS event. And I think they have gotten the hint about running lemons...ie afraid of the curse.

[Murph Tang]

The nudists are in pretty tight with chump car management. They ran the EC class at the TWS event. And I think they have gotten the hint about running lemons...ie afraid of the curse.

they got bucks and don't hesitate to drop them. Amazing for such a well prepped car how they end up in the penalty box so much. SHOws that dropping money doesn't translate to winning.

I wonder how long it took them to remove my tow hook from their quarter panel?!?! They apex perfectly into my front fender. Oops!

[b1ake]

chump is full of "cheater cars". The sunday winner at TWS in June was a perfectly straight, 2nd gen RX7 with a sho motor hooked up to a miata transmission. ZERO penalty laps. They beat a team of a few of our instructors in a well driven/prepared e30 if that doesn't say something.

I had a discussion with the promoter about why he wouldn't sign off on our neon with the 22 gallon cell even though they have 2 hour max driver stints and 5 minute fuel stops, but would let that RX7 in the race. He had the nerve to ask me to point out a real $500 car at HIS $500 car race. I then pointed to the cars going by on the straight and saying "yes, no, no, no, no, yes..." Oh, there is $375 neon over there (our second car) and it's blown up. THAT is the car for this race. The aforementioned RX7 was turning 2:05's at TWS which is barely two seconds a lap slower than a mid pack CMC Mustang RACECAR on Toyo RACE tires. Also about the same speed as a well driven spec miata.

That Rx7 is well prepared and well driven, and it looks like a POS? I guess I really don't see your point? Just because your friends in an E30 are good, there can't be better POS cars and drivers?

And if a well driven Spec Miata runs 2:05's, I got some oceanfront property in Oklahoma. Try 1:58's and 1:59's.

I am probably going to start running a Miata in Chump just because of the long enduro races at TWS - I miss those.