i give up, soo,,....

[fbodyjohnny]

alrighty. i have been seeing your point, i trust what you say is right, its just me, not knowing what really i want/need at this point. it just doesnt seem right to me that a cast block,, which is whats used by coast high without the dart upgrade, idk.

[Denny]

alrighty. i have been seeing your point, i trust what you say is right, its just me, not knowing what really i want/need at this point. it just doesnt seem right to me that a cast block,, which is whats used by coast high without the dart upgrade, idk.

If you can afford it and it gives you a piece of mind, then by all means, go for it.

[WildBill]

You know you will want more later on! Don't buy/build something you have to band-aide! Go ahead and man up for the Dart.

If you want long term street longevity, go with the 331 with the better rod ratio and pin placement on the piston. Race only would be another story.

Coast is a great value and they stand behind their product.

If you're gonna build something at this level, don't skimp on any of the supporting systems.

[71chevellejohn]

Go Dart and don't look back. One of my best friends had his 347 built in a stock block - the first time. The engine wasn't too wild - ~400hp N/A with a 200 shot. All was well until it split.

The rotating assembly wasn't damaged and it was transfered into a Dart block... That was 9+ years of ever-increasing nitrous use and abuse ago.

[KungFuHamster]

Go Dart and don't look back. One of my best friends had his 347 built in a stock block - the first time. The engine wasn't too wild - ~400hp N/A with a 200 shot. All was well until it split.

The rotating assembly wasn't damaged and it was transfered into a Dart block... That was 9+ years of ever-increasing nitrous use and abuse ago.

agreed. a buddy of mine split his stock block right down the middle of the lifter valley in his ~460 rwhp S-trim H/C/I car.

though, im sure there are cheaper but stronger alternatives than a dart block out there (sportsman).

i agree with the crate motor thing. just buy a good longblock from a reputable source and be done with it.

or better yet....put a mod motor in it. 03 cobra motor FTW

[Denny]

Well, if money isn't an issue, just put a Donovan block in it.

[Doug Hatton]

You can get that kind of power with a 302 h/c/i/boost setup....on a stock block.

Now, don't get me wrong, I want a Dart big bore 363, but I also want a about 800rwhp someday!

[FATHERFORD]

If you are going to spend that much might as well go 408.

[shumpertdavid]

call Daniel at Rusert Machine 432 684-7644

[jw33]

So glad I went the LSx route.....

[bigshoe]

Ive seen 302s make 3 times the power you're wanting.

15k sounds about right for the parts you listed (new) and labor from a decent shop.

[prochargedpony]

Check my sig, My car make close to 650 with 14psi, My heads are the trick flow 195 cnc ported, they are factory ported. I had watts do my short block and I did the rest, with a blower you are looking at about 15k. I have a new ford racing boss block and have about 4500 into my short block. I don't even want to add up the rest to be honest. This is combo number 10 I get bored easily with it.

[r**3_82gt]

Talk to Woody at FordStrokers.com. I was going to get a 347 shortblock from him, and decided to build a 306 instead and spent as much.

Here's a link to about what you want.

http://www.fordstrokers.com/fordstrokers-liberator-longblocks/fordstrokers-dart-liberator-longblock-.html

[sdun]

So, did you actually call or drive to the shop and talk to someone in person? Or did you just e-mail everyone and then assume they can't do it? Your asking for a combo that's been done 100s of times. It sounds like a communication problem to me.

Brian at Lonestar has done the same combo on a lot of fox cars, maby 25 over the years that makes right at 700 to the tires with a 331 motor and Victor Jr. heads out of the box using a Vortech with the stock computer.They even did one w/ a single turbo kit thet they built that made more than that. Hell, Will Mcds(Can't remember his screen name) car went a 5.90 with it 12 years ago and drove it everywhere. You might call (don't e-mail) Brian and ask him about it, it's a proven combo that works every time.

[Bigskippy]

Whatever shop told you would need a 347 or 363 to accomplish your goals is smoking crack. I have a stock block 302 H/C/I car with a S-Trim (10-11#s of boost) that just made 470.3 at the wheels last week at Gearheads. Call Travis at gearheads. He'll make it work for ya