Morgan and Son...

[BoostedGT]

what happend to the engine after one hit on the nitrous?

Don't blame the engine guy because of a poor nitrous tune up. End of story.

PS: Bud built my motor and it stayed together for 3 years of beating the shit out of it every weekend. Best engine builder around here no question about it.

[jayjohnson600]

Don't blame the engine guy because of a poor nitrous tune up. End of story.
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Mostly correct, but not entirely correct. The builder must know about the nitrous application for the motor because the motor spec must be set for the application intended.

That includes power-adder type, power-adder level, fuel type, etc.

I've had good results in the past with Hans Feustal in the past.
One of his engine builders started his own engine shop, but I can't remember the name.

[2165 Turbo Rail]

Mostly correct, but not entirely correct. The builder must know about the nitrous application for the motor because the motor spec must be set for the application intended.



That includes power-adder type, power-adder level, fuel type, etc.



I've had good results in the past with Hans Feustal in the past.

One of his engine builders started his own engine shop, but I can't remember the name.

I bet you that Bud knew the combo when building the motor for Dave

He asked me several questions about my set up before making suggestions so I'm sure he does that with bigger builds as well

[Super Coupe]

I will agree. denis wells is quite the dick head. If you know something about building engines, he does not have time for you, or even want your business. He likes the credit cards guys, that know nothing but their credit card number.

My uncle and cousin know how to build an engine and gladly takes their business. Been running the same motor in their modified for 6 years now and has been absolutely flawless with tons of feature wins. That's with at least 20-30 nights of racing every year. He aint there to socialize and make buddies.

[BoostedGT]

Mostly correct, but not entirely correct. The builder must know about the nitrous application for the motor because the motor spec must be set for the application intended.

That includes power-adder type, power-adder level, fuel type, etc.

I've had good results in the past with Hans Feustal in the past.
One of his engine builders started his own engine shop, but I can't remember the name.

You think Bud didn't know what application was being used on Dave's 632ci with three kits? Again, don't blame the engine builder for a poor nitrous tune up. End of story.

[JETFAST]

My uncle and cousin know how to build an engine and gladly takes their business. Been running the same motor in their modified for 6 years now and has been absolutely flawless with tons of feature wins. That's with at least 20-30 nights of racing every year. He aint there to socialize and make buddies.

I knew back in the day, when your uncle and cousin refused to run a q~jet and assured me there was no way it would make more hp then a 500cfm 2 barrel, I knew who I was dealing with.

I never said hey didn't know how to build a high dollar claimer engine.

I will say he doesn't have the slightest clue about building horse power.

[Super Coupe]

I knew back in the day, when your uncle and cousin refused to run a q~jet and assured me there was no way it would make more hp then a 500cfm 2 barrel, I knew who I was dealing with.

I never said hey didn't know how to build a high dollar claimer engine.

I will say he doesn't have the slightest clue about building horse power.

What are you talking about? We don't deal with claimer engines and neither one of them have ever run a 2 barrel or q-jet.

[582nova]

Bud does all of his machine work in house. I have been around the shop 14 year have never seen any machine work being sent out. So for the ones saying bud sends his out to other people are wrong.

Bud will also build a street engine or all out race engine. He will also just do machine work what ever the customer wants.

Daddy Dave's engine was from tune not from engine fault. When you are not pulling enough timing out and have it way to lean on fuel it will make it go boom. On his engine how many local engine company's will get the engine late Wednesday night and have it ready Friday morning with head fixed, new pistons, and sleeves. Buds customer service is hard to beat.

[Super Coupe]

3rd row outside. Wells "spec" motor vs a bunch open motors. Looks like he can build some good hp to me.


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[racrguy]

Lol@ IMCA mods/sport mods being open motors... They aren't, and afaik are subject to claim.

[Super Coupe]

Lol@ IMCA mods/sport mods being open motors... They aren't, and afaik are subject to claim.

Those are the usmts cars. Have you ever seen dirt knights?

[racrguy]

Yes, they are far from open. Here are their 2014 engine rules:

http://www.usmts.com/ClientFiles/Downloads/2014-usmts-rules.pdf

16.1 Must be able to be used in conventional passenger car without alteration. Motor mounts may not be removed or altered. Castings (includes block, heads and intake) and fittings may not be changed. Machine work on outside of engine, or on front or rear of camshaft, is not allowed. If utilizing lightened blocks (removal of material from inside and/or outside), an additional twenty-five (25) pounds of weight must be added in front of the mid-plate.
16.2 Total “dry sump” systems are not allowed. “Wet” system must be in stock operating order, except oil coolers and remote filters are permitted.
16.3 Modification of cooling system is permitted. Radiators and oil coolers may not protrude above interior.
16.4 Any American make may be used. Rear of engine (bell housing flange) must be mounted at least seventy-two
(72) inches forward from the center line of the rear axle – NO TOLERANCE.
16.5 Offset must be within two (2) inches of centerline of front cross member.
16.6 Must be a minimum of eleven (11) inches from ground to front center of crankshaft.
16.7 Steel blocks only – aluminum and/or titanium are not allowed.
16.8 Overflow tubes must be directed toward the ground and inside the frame rails.
16.9 Radiator must be mounted in front of engine.
16.10 Wiring elements must be accessible for technical inspection. Any racecar advancing spots and missing will be
subject to disqualification.
16.11 Tri-Y headers are permitted, but cannot contain stainless steel.
16.12 Exhaust system and/or mufflers must be mounted in such a way as to direct spent gases away from the cockpit
and away from areas of possible fuel spillage. Mufflers may be required at track's discretion.
16.13 Roller cams are permitted, unless otherwise noted.
16.14 Engine type shall determine the overall weight of the racecar (see Rule 17.3), spoiler height (see Rule 4.12.1)
and RPM limits of the rev-limiting chip (see Rule 9.2.5). Engines 375 cubic inches or more must utilize an 8,400
RPM rev-limiting chip. Engines 374 cubic inches or less must utilize an 9,000 RPM rev-limiting chip.
16.15 Intake manifold must be made of cast iron or cast aluminum. Unaltered plastic (AFR TITAN 4801 TXR) intake is
also permitted.
16.16 Flat Tappet/Steel Head Engine:
16.16.1 If valve angle is 23 degrees, the overall weight of the racecar must be a minimum of two-thousand four-hundred (2,400) pounds. If valve angle is less than 23 degrees, the overall weight of the racecar must be a minimum of two-thousand five-hundred (2,500) pounds (see Rule 17.3.1). The maximum rear spoiler height shall be seven (7) inches (see Rule 4.12.1).
16.16.2 Stock diameter lifters only. Mushroom lifters are not allowed.
16.16.3 Stud girdles and shaft rockers are permitted.
16.16.4 Engine components must be of matching manufacturers (i.e. Chevy for Chevy).
16.17 Flat Tappet/Brodix Aluminum Spec Head Engine:
16.17.1 The overall weight of the racecar must be a minimum of two-thousand three-hundred fifty (2,350) pounds (see
Rule 17.3.2). The maximum rear spoiler height shall be seven (7) inches (see Rule 4.12.1).
16.17.2 Approved product numbers for the Brodix Aluminum Spec Head are SPCH (Chevrolet), SPFO (Ford) and SPMO
(Mopar) for USMTS. For more information call Brodix at 479-394-1075 or visit www.brodix.com for more
information.
16.17.3 Removing, relocating, grinding, polishing or defacing of any cast letters and/or numbers is strictly forbidden. 16.17.4 May be angle milled, but valve angle must remain within one (1) degree of original manufactured specification. 16.17.5 Valve guides must retain original angle and spacing as manufactured. Valve guides may not be tapered, thinned
or shortened whatsoever. Minimum valve stem diameter must be five-sixteenths (.310) inch.
16.17.6 Absolutely no welding or adding material of any kind.
16.17.7 Removal of material is not allowed, except for pushrod clearance. Factory CNC chamber may not be altered in
any way.
16.17.8 Absolutely no enlarging, relocating or other altering of any bolt hole, dowel hole or threaded hole, except to spot
face bolt holes after angle milling.
16.17.9 Heli coils may be used for repairs.
16.17.10 Absolutely no grinding or polishing of any kind anywhere on the casting, except for pushrod clearance. 16.17.11 Internally-repaired Brodix Aluminum Spec Head must be recertified by Brodix.
16.17.12 Brodix Aluminum Spec Head checking fixtures will be used to check specifications and dimensions. 16.17.13 Stock diameter lifters only. Mushroom lifters are not allowed.
16.17.14 Stud girdles and shaft rockers are permitted.
16.17.15 Engine components must be of matching manufacturers (i.e. Chevy for Chevy).
16.17.16 Oil drain back and cooling lines are permitted.
16.18 Brodix Aluminum Spec Head Engine:
16.18.1 The overall weight of the racecar must be a minimum of two-thousand four-hundred (2,400) pounds (see Rule 17.3.1). The maximum rear spoiler height shall be seven (7) inches (see Rule 4.12.1).
16.18.2 Approved product numbers for the Brodix Aluminum Spec Head are SPCH (Chevrolet), SPFO (Ford) and SPMO (Mopar) for USMTS. For more information call Brodix at 479-394-1075 or visit www.brodix.com for more information.
16.18.3 Removing, relocating, grinding, polishing or defacing of any cast letters or numbers is strictly forbidden.
16.18.4 May be angle milled, but valve angle must remain within one (1) degree of original manufactured specification.
16.18.5 Valve guides must retain original angle and spacing as manufactured. Valve guides may not be tapered, thinned
or shortened whatsoever. Minimum valve stem diameter must be five-sixteenths (.310) inch.
16.18.6 Absolutely no welding or adding material of any kind.
16.18.7 Removal of material is not allowed, except for pushrod clearance. Factory CNC chamber may not be altered in
any way.
16.18.8 Absolutely no enlarging, relocating or other altering of any bolt hole, dowel hole or threaded hole, except to spot
face bolt holes after angle milling.
16.18.9 Heli coils may be used for repairs.
16.18.10 Absolutely no grinding or polishing of any kind anywhere on the casting, except for pushrod clearance. 16.18.11 Internally-repaired Brodix Aluminum Spec Head must be recertified by Brodix.
16.18.12 Brodix Aluminum Spec Head checking fixtures will be used to check specifications and dimensions. 16.18.13 Oil drain back and cooling lines are permitted.

[Super Coupe]

Watch dirt knights and you will understand what i mean between open and spec. Anyways some of these motors make 700 on an engine dyno and they have to last 40-50 nights a season.

We have the brodix spec head on ours to get the weight brake and the big spoiler.

[JETFAST]

What are you talking about? We don't deal with claimer engines and neither one of them have ever run a 2 barrel or q-jet.

What ever you need to tell yourself there Dirt Knight. I know first hand what it takes to win a championship at devils bowl. It sure the fuck wasn't a wells motor in there. passed up plenty of em' though. like I said, high dollar claimer motors son.

[JETFAST]

I'd guess it has some worn out valves/guides or maybe the intake gasket wasn't sealing properly. It was getting oil in the cylinders from somewhere.

rich n2o tunes will beat the rings out til they can't control oil anymore.