Originally posted by 91CoupeMike
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E85 on a n/a foxbody?
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A 9:1 6000 rpm engine isn't going to gain much by going to a fuel that is more resistant to detonation.
It could even lose power, since the incoming fuel charge will absorb more heat from the combustion chamber.
Crank up the compression, lighten the reciprocating weight, lighten and strengthen the valvetrain, then add more cam to increase RPM and cylinder pressure. At that point you'll have a reason to go to E85.When the government pays, the government controls.
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Originally posted by 46Tbird View PostA 9:1 6000 rpm engine isn't going to gain much by going to a fuel that is more resistant to detonation.
It could even lose power, since the incoming fuel charge will absorb more heat from the combustion chamber.
Crank up the compression, lighten the reciprocating weight, lighten and strengthen the valvetrain, then add more cam to increase RPM and cylinder pressure. At that point you'll have a reason to go to E85.
Most of the power gains in e85 come from the fact that more fuel can be burnt per molar unit of oxygen. Even though e85 has less energy per mass of fuel, the fact that more can be injected into the combustion chamber more than makes up for this.
Top fuelers run nitromethane specifically because of this. Nitromethane even carries it's own bit of oxidizer from the NO2 tagged onto the molecule...Full time ninja editor.
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Originally posted by majorownage View Postlol, this n!66@....
Most of the power gains in e85 come from the fact that more fuel can be burnt per molar unit of oxygen. Even though e85 has less energy per mass of fuel, the fact that more can be injected into the combustion chamber more than makes up for this.
Top fuelers run nitromethane specifically because of this. Nitromethane even carries it's own bit of oxidizer from the NO2 tagged onto the molecule...
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Originally posted by majorownage View Postlol, this n!66@....
Most of the power gains in e85 come from the fact that more fuel can be burnt per molar unit of oxygen. Even though e85 has less energy per mass of fuel, the fact that more can be injected into the combustion chamber more than makes up for this.
Top fuelers run nitromethane specifically because of this. Nitromethane even carries it's own bit of oxidizer from the NO2 tagged onto the molecule...When the government pays, the government controls.
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Originally posted by racrguy View PostUhh. wut? No.
Originally posted by 46Tbird View PostSounds great, thanks for the crappy thermodynamics lesson. Now convince your buddy to swap out his entire fuel system to slaughter whatever gas mileage he may be getting and end up with no gains because his engine is not being taxed enough to take advantage of it.
The topic is E85, not nitromethane. Try sticking to the syllabus, Bill Nye.
No thermodynamics here. Easy freshman chemistry. Nitromethane is an extreme example and the principle of the horsepower gains are the same mechanism.
Just FYI, I'm not advocating switching over either.Last edited by majorownage; 11-12-2013, 02:07 PM.Full time ninja editor.
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Originally posted by majorownage View PostHey thanks! That's Bill Nye in my siggy!
No thermodynamics here. Easy freshman chemistry.
Nitromethane is an extreme example and the principle of the horsepower gains are the same mechanism.When the government pays, the government controls.
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Originally posted by majorownage View PostHow about instead of just refuting me, explain how it works.
E85 doesn't do that. Your statement that horsepower gains are from the same mechanism is not true.When the government pays, the government controls.
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