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  • #16
    Food for thought

    Even on a relatively mild 406ci small-block Chevy with a hydraulic roller cam, a spring incorporating the latest technology can make a big difference. Westech Performance tested a traditional Comp Cams dual spring with damper (PN 954) against one of Comp's new single beehive springs (PN 26918). The 954 developed 210 pounds on the seat and 523 pounds open, compared with the 26918's 130/318-pound specs. Both springs were installed with titanium retainers and locks, yet the beehive combination was still 52 grams lighter. If the engine's steel valves had been replaced with titanium valves instead, the weight savings would have been just 40 grams.

    Overall peak output was virtually the same: 418.4 lb-ft for the 954 versus 416.9 lb-ft for the 26918, both at 4,800 rpm; and 418.2 hp versus 419.3 hp for the 954 and 26918, respectively, at 5,800 rpm. Average output throughout the 2,500- to 7,000-rpm test range varied by only about two numbers. But above 6,500 rpm, the difference was huge: The new-tech 26918 effectively extended the engine's rpm range, proving to be worth 15 to 36 hp and 12 to 28 lb-ft on top. The stiffer 954 did produce more low-end torque because its higher loads were actually bending the other components, effectively decreasing duration at the valve.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
      How do I determine what spring would be best?
      I would run a PAC 15xx series beehive, 130 seat ish and 330 openish
      or a PSI 1511ML LS1 spring which is a phenomenal spring.
      PSI doesn't fuck around, best spring out there IMO. you will cut TONS of weight with a beehive
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      • #18
        I see and that makes sense.

        So I get some beehives and rev it to 6200 what do I do about it shutting off? Can that be turned off and just use an ignition box for a limiter?

        320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

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        • #19
          It looks like I was still making power when it fell off. Hmm maybe i should've done this sooner.

          320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

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          • #20
            So this looks like a decent deal.


            I didn't realize I could use an ls1 spring. What else would I need?

            320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

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            • #21
              Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
              So this looks like a decent deal.


              I didn't realize I could use an ls1 spring. What else would I need?
              Is your installed height at 1.900? Currently using a locator?
              You need to get the installed height to 1.800, you will need a locator for the ls1 spring, the correct locks for your valves 11/32?, retainers. Crane makes the locks and retainers, you can use .050 locks to help with the installed height, the rest you will need to shim.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mach1 View Post
                Is your installed height at 1.900? Currently using a locator?
                You need to get the installed height to 1.800, you will need a locator for the ls1 spring, the correct locks for your valves 11/32?, retainers. Crane makes the locks and retainers, you can use .050 locks to help with the installed height, the rest you will need to shim.
                "locator" means the a cup in the spring seat or the inside the spring boss type locator?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Blue88Coupe View Post
                  "locator" means the a cup in the spring seat or the inside the spring boss type locator?
                  Either, I'd go inside personally
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                  • #24
                    6250 is the cut off in a factory ECU without some sort of extender or tuning. Ford use to sell these for the Fox body cars.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by thesource View Post
                      6250 is the cut off in a factory ECU without some sort of extender or tuning. Ford use to sell these for the Fox body cars.

                      I have a chip in the car, ill just deal with it until I go back to get it tuned for spray.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                        I have a chip in the car, ill just deal with it until I go back to get it tuned for spray.
                        I don't remember if piggy back chips can raise the rpm limiter or not on the EEC stuff. You would have to ask your tuner about that.

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                        • #27
                          Or you could just use the ecu from an aod car...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 90GT50 View Post
                            Or you could just use the ecu from an aod car...

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                            That's what I have

                            320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

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                            • #29
                              I don't think it matters. 6250 is the factory rev limiter as far as I know for all of the 5.0 Foxes. I think the Cobra even banged out at 6250.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by 90GT50 View Post
                                Or you could just use the ecu from an aod car...

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                                I hear that's a rumor, seems to be evidence of that in this thread.

                                Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                                That's what I have
                                A9P?
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