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  • #31
    Originally posted by Txstang1 View Post
    28in tire ! Grubbs scaled the car a year or two ago. It has a wolfe anti roll bar installed. I was asking about the stock sway bar that bolts to the bottom of the rear end, which is what I thought Clifton was talking about.

    Up front is a QA1 kmember, 150/14 springs on 90/10s

    LF 849 RF 870
    LR 632 RR 624

    total 2975

    cross 1502 50.4%
    left 1480 49.7
    rear 1255 42.1

    I dont know what that shit means in relationship to how it should be setup. They set it at 6 degrees of pinion angle measured from the flat on the rear end cover.
    Well......I don't know either

    I would give Wolfe a call and tell him all the specs and see what rates they recommend for a radial and go from there. (or slick if that's what you want)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Txstang1 View Post
      I dont know what that shit means in relationship to how it should be setup. They set it at 6 degrees of pinion angle measured from the flat on the rear end cover.
      that might be you're problem, Let Kyle At Donihoos speed shop set it for you, He's a bad ass when it comes to that.
      Street car.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Slow Five-O View Post
        For pinion angle you'll want to subtract the angle of the drive shaft from the pinion flange angle. (i think i said that right)

        With solid stuff in the back you should be around - 1 1/2.
        That's not how you do it.

        Setting up a suspension is an art. Like I said before you ask on a forum you will have all the "experts" come out.
        903-870-8109

        Thank you:
        2JM Diesel & Fabrication - for the chassis and tuning
        Freak Show Performance - for the great transmission
        Jimmy Patton for the pit help
        Chris Fowler for the motor work
        TRZ Motorsports - thanks Mike
        NRC Motorsports - thanks Bob
        Team Z Motorsports - thanks Dave
        Forced Inductions - thanks Jose
        Work Turbochargers - thanks Reed

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        • #34
          The track you go to also can make a big difference when on DR. My TA spun at K-dale, I was thinking it needed some adjusting, but left it alone. Went to Denton, it went a 5.52 with the same tune. 60' a 1.28.

          Tires also. Buy new ones, not someone else's used up stuff. If you're not making alot of power, this probably isn't as critical.

          Power management, alot of getting off the line is how you are bringing your power in. I can remember when I first got my coupe running, it was spinning after the 60'. After 3 passes of this, I crammed more power into it and it took off. I wasn't keeping the suspension loaded.

          I'm a firm believer in the once you have your car setup, you shouldn't have to mess with it alot....power management is how you make it go.

          Those are my random thoughts on suspension.

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          • #35
            I got 1.3x's out of a stock 5.0, 4cyl springs on the front, v8 rears, a T3550, 4.11's and 28" slicks. Good rubber bushings up top, poly lowers, and good rear shocks.
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Txstang1 View Post
              28in tire ! Grubbs scaled the car a year or two ago. It has a wolfe anti roll bar installed. I was asking about the stock sway bar that bolts to the bottom of the rear end, which is what I thought Clifton was talking about.

              Up front is a QA1 kmember, 150/14 springs on 90/10s

              LF 849 RF 870
              LR 632 RR 624

              total 2975

              cross 1502 50.4%
              left 1480 49.7
              rear 1255 42.1

              I dont know what that shit means in relationship to how it should be setup. They set it at 6 degrees of pinion angle measured from the flat on the rear end cover.
              Do you know what each of those numbers means?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bigminz View Post
                That's not how you do it.

                Setting up a suspension is an art. Like I said before you ask on a forum you will have all the "experts" come out.
                How do you do it?
                2014 GT
                2013 FX2 ecoboost

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                  I'll be running a 31 spline spool.
                  Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                  Soooooo. Do you have another daily that's readily available for you to drive on a regular basis, or are you modding your only vehicle?
                  Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                  My only car, but I have other means of transportation.
                  Have you ever drove a car with a spool on the streets? Its really no fun at all! I have been driving my car (91' hatch) with a spool & 4:10 gears as my daily driver for about the last 6-8 months now, and it has been total hell! A spool kills your turning radius to where you cant make tight turns for shit (forget about u-turns), tires chirp like crazy around every turn, rear end/spool clinks/pops like crazy around corners, and was just a total annoying hassle to drive on the streets...

                  When I first had the idea of putting a spool in my car I didnt think driving with a spool on the streets would be that bad, but now I see why everyone says that spools arnt meant to drive on the streets. I learned the hard way...

                  I now just got finished rebuilding my rear end, and though it might not be considered a "full race suspension", I am loving it!

                  UPR Caster/Camber Plates
                  UPR Subfram Connectors
                  UPR Upper & Lower Control Arms
                  Tokico Blue Shocks
                  Cobra Sway Bar
                  Moser 31 Spline Axles
                  Ford Racing Cobra 31 Spline Diff
                  Ford Racing 3:73 Gears
                  Ford Racing "C" Springs (no isolators)
                  26x11.5x15 MT Slick (no quads, fenders rolled, no problems/rubbing)
                  Last edited by Exile; 03-31-2013, 12:43 AM.
                  1991 5.0 Mustang LX-Hatch, BBK Cold Air Intake, BBK Headers, BBK X-Pipe, Flowmaster 40's, HPM C/C Plates, Cobra Sway-Bar, UPR Subframe Connectors, UPR Control Arms, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP "C" Springs, FRPP 31 Spine Diff, Moser 31 Spline Axles, FRPP 3:73 Gears, Tokico Blue Shocks, King Cobra Clutch, MSD Ignition, Taurus Electric Fan, BBK Gripp Shifter, & More

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Exile View Post
                    A spool kills your turning radius to where you cant make tight turns for shit (forget about u-turns)
                    Mike is an outlaw.
                    Originally posted by Buzzo
                    Some dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.

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                    • #40
                      If I can't make a u turn, I put it in second and drop the clutch. Let it ride about 2,000 rpm and just snap the throttle once and it'll whip around pretty good. Id say that it effectively decreases my turning radius.

                      I got the spool for $30. So why not? Swapping diffs can be done in a little over an hour if you're not to busy drooling on yourself.. If I don't like it, I'll swap it back out.

                      LSDs are just so damn heavy...

                      320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

                      DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Slow Five-O View Post
                        How do you do it?
                        For what is being discussed here that will actually work. I was just trying to show that there are more ways to skin a cat. It used to be on Wolfe's site like that.

                        We do it differently but I'm also speaking of altered motor locations and extreme ride height changes.

                        It's not necessarily the parts but the setup that is critical.
                        Last edited by bigminz; 03-31-2013, 09:59 AM.
                        903-870-8109

                        Thank you:
                        2JM Diesel & Fabrication - for the chassis and tuning
                        Freak Show Performance - for the great transmission
                        Jimmy Patton for the pit help
                        Chris Fowler for the motor work
                        TRZ Motorsports - thanks Mike
                        NRC Motorsports - thanks Bob
                        Team Z Motorsports - thanks Dave
                        Forced Inductions - thanks Jose
                        Work Turbochargers - thanks Reed

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                          Do you know what each of those numbers means?
                          no

                          Originally posted by Exile View Post
                          Have you ever drove a car with a spool on the streets? Its really no fun at all! I have been driving my car (91' hatch) with a spool & 4:10 gears as my daily driver for about the last 6-8 months now, and it has been total hell! A spool kills your turning radius to where you cant make tight turns for shit (forget about u-turns), tires chirp like crazy around every turn, rear end/spool clinks/pops like crazy around corners, and was just a total annoying hassle to drive on the streets...

                          When I first had the idea of putting a spool in my car I didnt think driving with a spool on the streets would be that bad, but now I see why everyone says that spools arnt meant to drive on the streets. I learned the hard way...

                          I now just got finished rebuilding my rear end, and though it might not be considered a "full race suspension", I am loving it!

                          UPR Caster/Camber Plates
                          UPR Subfram Connectors
                          UPR Upper & Lower Control Arms
                          Tokico Blue Shocks
                          Cobra Sway Bar
                          Moser 31 Spline Axles
                          Ford Racing Cobra 31 Spline Diff
                          Ford Racing 3:73 Gears
                          Ford Racing "C" Springs (no isolators)
                          26x11.5x15 MT Slick (no quads, fenders rolled, no problems/rubbing)
                          I just pulled the spool out of mine and put a posi back in it. Wears out tires and is a pain in the ass on the street. Dont even think about driving with slicks on the street.
                          Vortex rear stand $75
                          8.8 410s. $50

                          **SKAGG NASTY**
                          My goal in life is to not arrive at the grave in a well preserved body.
                          but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy shit!!!.. what a ride!"

                          1990 Foxbody GT for that ass
                          11 4 door
                          13 FX2 White 5.0

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by bigminz View Post
                            For what is being discussed here that will actually work. I was just trying to show that there are more ways to skin a cat. It used to be on Wolfe's site like that.

                            We do it differently but I'm also speaking of altered motor locations and extreme ride height changes.

                            It's not necessarily the parts but the setup that is critical.
                            His car is just a street car mustang with the little suspension he mentioned. Not a koth car.


                            Steve if your cars pinion angle is at 6 degrees you'll want to get that changed.
                            Last edited by Slow Five-O; 03-31-2013, 02:44 PM.
                            2014 GT
                            2013 FX2 ecoboost

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                            • #44
                              Btw just pulled the spool out of my yellow car and put a Detroit the trac in as well.
                              2014 GT
                              2013 FX2 ecoboost

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Slow Five-O View Post
                                Steve if your cars pinion angle is at 6 degrees you'll want to get that changed.
                                I thought that sounded like too much. I guess I got fucked out of $250
                                Vortex rear stand $75
                                8.8 410s. $50

                                **SKAGG NASTY**
                                My goal in life is to not arrive at the grave in a well preserved body.
                                but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy shit!!!.. what a ride!"

                                1990 Foxbody GT for that ass
                                11 4 door
                                13 FX2 White 5.0

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