Kooks headers why so expensive

[red89notch]

then 1 and 3 go together as they are 180 apart. which also makes those 4 into 1's correct, firing in a circle into the collector

I see that working on a 2 stroke. Why would you want them 180 apart? It will be another 540 til 1 fires again on a four stroke.

[bigshoe]

I would just pony up the extra cash and have a set of headers built for the car. By the time you buy the kooks and pay shipping and shit, you are almost to the cost of a custom set.

Oh wait... that's what I did.

[Blackpony]

Mac headers fit like shit. Bkk decent I've had good luck with them. KOOKS quality is 2nd to none fit great work great for people that have nice cars and want nice parts on them.

Pypes and mac are for people that dont know!


I have sold every Brand i do know.

^^^ this

I have installed pretty much every brand available, and you get what you pay for. Mac is total shit. I have never once had a set fit without modification. BBK is a 90% good fit 10% minor modification. Pypes dont even consider them complete and total shit! Kooks or American Racing i have never once had to modify them in any way to fit properly.

You get what you pay for!

[SMEGMA STENCH]

OK then to help me get an idea . Aside from being restrictive . How do yall rate the over all quality of the factory fford headers that came on mustang ? Ford do a good job ? And what is there manufacturing process like ? made in china prolly

[91CoupeMike]

Factory header will be reliable as it gets.

But they suck, so don't use them.

[Cooter]

made in china prolly

huh?

[turbostang]

difference in cost of manufacturing stainless vs mild steel headers is around $1.00/foot of tubing, labor is exactly the same.......stainless is not the reason headers are expensive.

Have you fallen down and bumped your head?

stainless rods are higher, it's harder to cut, bend and trim. You have to (or you SHOULD) backpurge every joint... all of which adds $$$.

[Grape]

we do it everyday with 4 fulltime welders sitting and welding stainles and Ti......it actually costs us more to work with mild steel because we don't buy enough of it to get deals. Our labor doesn't change, we have to set the CNC bender no matter what material we are bending, stainless, Ti, or mild all have diff spring back rates.

[Z06killinsbf]

Better than the crap I get to deal with...

[Big Thumper]

For the newer Mustangs, American Racing look to be a nicer header. They at least tried, with a merge collector

I have some Krooks for my Lsx swap, damn things have rust on them. Cheap SS.

[CJ]

I have kooks on my vette, they were expensive - that's all I remember. I haven't had any problems or issues since they day I installed them, completely bolt on and forget.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

what happens if no collector

[Hobie]

1,2,4,3.......like all inline 180 degree 4's, only thing that is different now is that stupid new R1 thing.

-NINJA EDIT-
I quoted this to say that's a GSXR motor, not an R1, but figured out what you said after posting, my mistake.

[Matt]

what happens if no collector

RACEcar

[SMEGMA STENCH]

lol