Sta-bil ethanol treatment

[Snatch Napkin]

I've been looking for the actual ingredients and all I have found is "petroleum distillates".
These distillates possess strong anti-oxidation characteristics, supposedly, but I would like to know what it is made of so I can get a better idea of whether or not it works for keeping a fox body fuel system from deteriorating while it sits for weeks at a time.
I'm also curious as to whether or not it removes the ethanol or just counteracts the effects.

This car runs great with non-ethanol fuel, but the few times it has had to get E-10 it pops, spits and sputters, as well as have a hard time idling.

[rusty shackleford]

i don't think it helps fuel from 'deteriorating' i think it is just meant to help keep it from absorbing moisture.

[Snatch Napkin]

Fuel system.

I want to know how it helps the fuel system from deteriorating. It has anti-oxidant abilities. Is that for only metal parts? Rubber parts? Plastic? etc.

[mustangguy289]

I am interested in this as well. I don't drive my car much and it seems I am always needing to clean the carburetor ever since we started using this ethanol crap.

My main issues are the rubber orings and the acc. pump diaphram (also rubber).

[Tyrone Biggums]

If you don't find the info you're looking for on the Sta-bil, look into StarTron.

http://mystarbrite.com/startron/

[Snatch Napkin]

I'm also curious about Startron. They use an enzyme as the main tool to fight ethanol.

However, if something consumes something else then it usually leads to some type of waste. Is this waste small enough to get past a filter?

Apparently Techron claims to fight the corrosive qualities of ethanol as well.


With all of the snake oils in the market, I would like to know the science behind it. All I can find in my limited time to search are advertisements hidden in "independent" testing.

[Snatch Napkin]

I'm also wondering if the octane rating gets affected by any of these. The ethanol raises the rating slightly. If the Startron's enzymes consume the ethanol, then what does that do to the octane rating?

If that's even how the Startron works.

[juiceweezl]

While it may not pertain to what you're looking for or be what you want, here's something. Before McKinney Lawn & Power went out of business, they had the contract for the city of McKinney. They provided and serviced all their 2 stroke power tools, mowers, etc. The city was getting highly upset at why they were constantly having to have tools serviced.

ML&P told them it was the ethanol in the gas, but McKinney didn't believe them. ML&P paid to have a study done (that's what the guy there told me when I was buying rebuild parts) that showed how the ethanol was deteriorating gaskets, o-rings, diaphragms, etc. He recommended using Sta-bil in my fuel mix. It has made a huge difference in time between rebuilds.

[Snatch Napkin]

Most of my fishermen tell me that the Sta-bil Marine ethanol treatment is always recommended by their mechanics. A good friend's FIL runs a Stihl dealership/service center and he swears by the stuff.


I'll probably just blindly get some and send my questions to the "Iunno" file.

[Tyrone Biggums]

I'm also curious about Startron. They use an enzyme as the main tool to fight ethanol.

However, if something consumes something else then it usually leads to some type of waste. Is this waste small enough to get past a filter?

Apparently Techron claims to fight the corrosive qualities of ethanol as well.


With all of the snake oils in the market, I would like to know the science behind it. All I can find in my limited time to search are advertisements hidden in "independent" testing.

I don't think the enzyme in startron necessarily consumes the ethanol. They say the enzyme helps to break apart large clusters of fuel molecules, creating more surface area which allows additional oxygen to react during combustion, creating a more complete fuel burn.

[Snatch Napkin]

I don't think the enzyme in startron necessarily consumes the ethanol. They say the enzyme helps to break apart large clusters of fuel molecules, creating more surface area which allows additional oxygen to react during combustion, creating a more complete fuel burn.

Hmmm....

I was looking at the MSDS sheet on Startron and it shows the proprietary organic enzyme, then Solvent Naphtha (Petroleum) heavy aliphatic.

The Naphtha is an antioxidant and makes for a good spot to catch onto other elements.

It sure would be nice to know what that organic compound is.

This is that study, but it was put on by Gold Eagle.

http://www.goldeagle.com/UserFiles/file/Ethanol%20411/Gold%20Eagle%20eGas%20Article%20PSL.pdf

[Snatch Napkin]

Startron says the Enzyme breaks down the water molecules that are found in gas through condensation and attraction to ethanol. These elements will bond to the Naphtha and burn in the engine very well.

[krazy kris]

I use it every time I put gas in my boat and I haven't had a problems in 2 years

[Snatch Napkin]

I had an epiphany while eating dinner and having a conversation with the wifey.
If Startron has found an inexpensive enzyme that can break down water into it's basic elements in order bond hydrogen and oxygen with naphtha, then they found the cheapest way to produce hydrogen while also finding a way around the photosynthesis requirements of any other known enzymes of this nature.

I think I will take the idea that naphtha by itself can do some good towards helping fight the corrosion caused by ethanol, but the rest of that claim is bullshit.

[Tyrone Biggums]

I had an epiphany while eating dinner and having a conversation with the wifey.
If Startron has found an inexpensive enzyme that can break down water into it's basic elements in order bond hydrogen and oxygen with naphtha, then they found the cheapest way to produce hydrogen while also finding a way around the photosynthesis requirements of any other known enzymes of this nature.

But wait, don't you see? The bridge will exist in 1985. It's safe and still in use. Therefore, as long as we get the DeLorean up to 88 miles per hour before we hit the edge of the ravine, we'll instantaneously arrive at a point in time where the bridge is completed. We'll have track under us and coast safely across the ravine!