Best modular shop in DFW area?

[jnobles06]

Haha - Newb

I'm not the guy arguing that meth injection is better on a mustang than e85.

I don't need to read an article about a Subaru engine with a small turbo making small horsepower numbers to convince me that e85 is better than methanol injection.

I base my opinion from hands on experience

you still obviously can't read. check the end of post 17

and i tune my own cars with sct PRP and an LM2 wideband datalogger

[Grape]

e85 is inconsistent as fuck. ya, let me take this fuel that blends with water out of a tank that's underground............

pump gas is bad enough, jeez

[aggie97]

i want to know who said anything about this guy racing full throttle for 30min? plus one of the main benefits of water/ meth and e85 is cooler combustion chamber temps.

Then you obviously have NO CLUE about open track driving or HPDE's. You are BEATING THE SHIT out of the car for 20 to 30 minutes at a time on a road course. I've met the OP several times, I know he ain't easy on the car and wants reliability, hence EVERY ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS. FURTHER keep in mind he is in Oklahoma where they can't get 93 Octane fuel...only 91. Boost is NOT required and would not be a long term solution for his track duty car....even though it's still a weekend or DD.

as for the $15k...that's bullshit. He's already got the MM stuff so scratch that off the list. stroker shortblocks are what, $3k these days. Figure in ported heads and cams at another $2500 or so. ALL of which can be bought smartly on the used market for even less.

Trans/flywheel....get a quick time bell housing to put an Astro A-5 behind it. CHEAPER than a TKO600 or even 3550. He might even have the Fidanza flywheel already but it's not necessary.

Heck, I might even suggest just a solid refresh of the shortblock, put cams in the stock heads after a valve job and some cleaning, throw an aggressive tune in the car and beat the snot out of it. It won't be 400rwhp, but it will be about 350'ish and that's more than the 280-290 he's putting down now. Throw some 4.10's in the car BOOYA! Power coming up out of the Bitch at Hallett! Save the money on a built shortblock and put an eaton diff in the rear and hang the tail any time you want!

[Dan03mach]

e85 is inconsistent as fuck. ya, let me take this fuel that blends with water out of a tank that's underground............

pump gas is bad enough, jeez

How often do you test the fuel? It shouldn't be inconsistent. Now the blends are different for summer and winter. Everytime I tested it, it has been right on. The last test showed 88% Ethanol...

[Emwun Garand]

true street motorsports
hpp racing
gear heads

[SKMCOBRA]

they make trunk mount kits and you can make the res as large as you want. i want to know who said anything about this guy racing full throttle for 30min? plus one of the main benefits of water/ meth and e85 is cooler combustion chamber temps.


and all the parts you listed are going to run about 15k. i had every MM suspension part on my old 2k gt and it was about 8-9k worth. not to mention 2k for a tranny/ clutch, and 5k for the built motor.

I do run WOT for 15-20 minute sessions. I will also say that I have a good friend who had his 2011 5.0 GT switched/tuned to run on e85 and only saw about 10-15hp gains. This was with a before/after dyno. The car was for road racing app. He switched it back to run in 91 octane.

[SKMCOBRA]

Then you obviously have NO CLUE about open track driving or HPDE's. You are BEATING THE SHIT out of the car for 20 to 30 minutes at a time on a road course. I've met the OP several times, I know he ain't easy on the car and wants reliability, hence EVERY ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS. FURTHER keep in mind he is in Oklahoma where they can't get 93 Octane fuel...only 91. Boost is NOT required and would not be a long term solution for his track duty car....even though it's still a weekend or DD.

as for the $15k...that's bullshit. He's already got the MM stuff so scratch that off the list. stroker shortblocks are what, $3k these days. Figure in ported heads and cams at another $2500 or so. ALL of which can be bought smartly on the used market for even less.

Trans/flywheel....get a quick time bell housing to put an Astro A-5 behind it. CHEAPER than a TKO600 or even 3550. He might even have the Fidanza flywheel already but it's not necessary.

Heck, I might even suggest just a solid refresh of the shortblock, put cams in the stock heads after a valve job and some cleaning, throw an aggressive tune in the car and beat the snot out of it. It won't be 400rwhp, but it will be about 350'ish and that's more than the 280-290 he's putting down now. Throw some 4.10's in the car BOOYA! Power coming up out of the Bitch at Hallett! Save the money on a built shortblock and put an eaton diff in the rear and hang the tail any time you want!

Yeh I am thinking 350-375rwhp would be good and throw 4.10s with a 6-speed in there and coming out of turn 2 and 9 at Hallett would be much much better. Right now I have 3.73s mated with a Detroit Truetrac diff, which is good with a 5-speed. You've pretty much convinced me to steer away from a blown application. What about my LTs? With new heads I would have to replace those which would suck adding additional cost, and I would need a new light weight flywheel as I am 61k miles on the stocker.

[aggie97]

Yeh I am thinking 350-375rwhp would be good and throw 4.10s with a 6-speed in there and coming out of turn 2 and 9 at Hallett would be much much better. Right now I have 3.73s mated with a Detroit Truetrac diff, which is good with a 5-speed. You've pretty much convinced me to steer away from a blown application. What about my LTs? With new heads I would have to replace those which would suck adding additional cost, and I would need a new light weight flywheel as I am 61k miles on the stocker.

As long as the LT's aren't beaten up or crushed...should be fine to re-use. Mine are all beat to hell from an off I had at Miller in 09 (it was ugly) and I may replace them for my new setup as it comes together.

If you can get the car lighter and not sacrifice your street driven fun, a 4V spinning some RPM making 350-375rwhp with 4.10's will surprise the shit out of you! 6 speed swap is great if you can find a deal like I did, but the T56 is heavy. I built a CMC2 car with a quicktime bell housing and he uses T-5's with it. He's broken two of them and needs to build and A-5, but the split bell and lighter 5 speeds with a better .8X 5th gear is WAY better than the T45. My T56 has been rock solid and I ended up getting it in the car for around $800....which is not the norm.

[jnobles06]

Then you obviously have NO CLUE about open track driving or HPDE's. You are BEATING THE SHIT out of the car for 20 to 30 minutes at a time on a road course. I've met the OP several times, I know he ain't easy on the car and wants reliability, hence EVERY ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS. FURTHER keep in mind he is in Oklahoma where they can't get 93 Octane fuel...only 91. Boost is NOT required and would not be a long term solution for his track duty car....even though it's still a weekend or DD.

as for the $15k...that's bullshit. He's already got the MM stuff so scratch that off the list. stroker shortblocks are what, $3k these days. Figure in ported heads and cams at another $2500 or so. ALL of which can be bought smartly on the used market for even less.

Trans/flywheel....get a quick time bell housing to put an Astro A-5 behind it. CHEAPER than a TKO600 or even 3550. He might even have the Fidanza flywheel already but it's not necessary.

Heck, I might even suggest just a solid refresh of the shortblock, put cams in the stock heads after a valve job and some cleaning, throw an aggressive tune in the car and beat the snot out of it. It won't be 400rwhp, but it will be about 350'ish and that's more than the 280-290 he's putting down now. Throw some 4.10's in the car BOOYA! Power coming up out of the Bitch at Hallett! Save the money on a built shortblock and put an eaton diff in the rear and hang the tail any time you want!

with the power/ engine you are talking about, the suspension, and the transmission and not to mention the rear end....... yes that is about 15k

and did you just say booya? jesus.

I'm glad you met the op, but he never stated anywhere in here that he intends to drive the car that hard. so how the fuck am I supposed to know that? I only know what info is given.

I am in the middle if a modular build and I bought my heads, cams, and crank used and I'm still in the motor alone for over $3.5k with h/c/I and forged internals. then for a built trans clutch and fly is going to be 1.5k, and i did have all of, not most of the mm suspension and it was close to 8k worth. not to mention the odd and ends like gaskets, machine work, and fluids.

op- that's what I get for helping a newb. you might want to include your intentions for the car next time.

[jnobles06]

I do run WOT for 15-20 minute sessions. I will also say that I have a good friend who had his 2011 5.0 GT switched/tuned to run on e85 and only saw about 10-15hp gains. This was with a before/after dyno. The car was for road racing app. He switched it back to run in 91 octane.

that is about right for e85 on a n/a stock compression motor. If blown or hi compression you can gain anywhere from
40-100 hp from water methanol or e85

[aggie97]

with the power/ engine you are talking about, the suspension, and the transmission and not to mention the rear end....... yes that is about 15k

and did you just say booya? jesus.

I'm glad you met the op, but he never stated anywhere in here that he intends to drive the car that hard. so how the fuck am I supposed to know that? I only know what info is given.

I am in the middle if a modular build and I bought my heads, cams, and crank used and I'm still in the motor alone for over $3.5k with h/c/I and forged internals. then for a built trans clutch and fly is going to be 1.5k, and i did have all of, not most of the mm suspension and it was close to 8k worth. not to mention the odd and ends like gaskets, machine work, and fluids.

op- that's what I get for helping a newb. you might want to include your intentions for the car next time.

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[Clifton]

Hpp

[jnobles06]

Read Post #7.....

yeah, its pretty vague. i would have never assumed that meant 20-30 min runs. unless i had previously met him and knew what he was trying to do.

[Grape]

How often do you test the fuel? It shouldn't be inconsistent. Now the blends are different for summer and winter. Everytime I tested it, it has been right on. The last test showed 88% Ethanol...

tested e85 once on the engine dyno...........not worth fucking with

[F8LSVT]

I would talk to Hpp. I've always delt with them and got top notch service. The previous owner of my car had them build the engine up and ive had Manny tune it for various changes since then. Car has always ran great and never had any hiccups.