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  • Don't get it: ABS light on and keep popping cig. fuses

    Wife's 2002 escape just went over 102,000 miles. Her ABS light comes on after about 1 mile in the car and she keeps popping her Cigarette lighter fuse and the power accessory fuse (the other cig lighter below the main one on the dash)

    I replaced the fuses less than a week ago and they just went out again.

    I know there is a recall specifically for the 2002 Escapes ABS system, but could these be interelated somehow?

  • #2
    Coin in the cig lighter hole? I had a car do that once.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Diabolic View Post
      Coin in the cig lighter hole? I had a car do that once.
      that's what I was thinking, or piece of foil wrap...
      Doug

      90 LX Coupe 5.0
      90 7up Vert. 5.0

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      • #4
        both are on the same fuse. Has the recall been done yet

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        • #5
          Originally posted by psdtech View Post
          both are on the same fuse. Has the recall been done yet
          I still need to call in and give them my VIN # to see if the recall has been done on this vehicle.

          And actually, what really is interesting is that they are not on the same fuse.

          The power acc. one is a 20 amp fuse in the engine fuse box. The Cig Lighter is a 10 or 15 amp in the interior fuse box. Completely different, yet they both keep blowing out.

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          • #6
            your right the cig fuse is 2.14 and abs is 1.14 fucking small print on the diagram. whats the vin i can run it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by psdtech View Post
              your right the cig fuse is 2.14 and abs is 1.14 fucking small print on the diagram. whats the vin i can run it
              Thank you!

              VIN: 1FMYU03112KD34245

              We are planning on selling this next year and getting an 05 - 08 Edge, so trying to keep everything in working condition. If you have any advice, I would love to hear what I can do to fix this issue. Thanks!


              Originally posted by ABS RECALL

              Auto Recall Date: APR 10, 2007


              Vehicle Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK:CONTROL UNIT/MODULE
              Estimated Vehicles Affected: 446460
              Model Affected
              2002 FORD ESCAPE


              2002 Ford Escape Defect Summary:
              ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH ANTILOCK BRAKES (ABS), THE ABS MODULE CONNECTOR MAY HAVE MISSING OR DISLODGED WIRE SEALS. THIS CONDITION COULD ALLOW CONTAMINATION TO ENTER THE MODULE CONNECTOR, CREATING A POTENTIAL FOR AN ELECTRICAL SHORT.


              Defect Consequence:
              AN ELECTRICAL SHORT MIGHT CAUSE AN ABS MALFUNCTION THAT WOULD ILLUMINATE THE ABS WARNING LIGHT, AND IN SOME CASES, THE MODULE MAY OVERHEAT RESULTING IN BURNING ODOR, SMOKE, AND/OR FIRE. THIS CONDITION COULD OCCUR EITHER WHEN THE VEHICLE IGNITION SWITCH IS IN THE OFF POSITION OR WHILE THE VEHICLE IS BEING OPERATED.


              Remedy:
              DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE WIRE HARNESS CONNECTOR TO THE ABS MODULE FOR MISSING OR DISLODGED WIRE SEALS, AND REPAIR OR REPLACE THE HARNESS CONNECTOR AS APPROPRIATE. THE DEALER WILL ALSO INSPECT THE CONNECTOR ON THE ABS MODULE AND REPLACE IT IF IT IS FOUND TO BE CORRODED OR DAMAGED. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 23, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.


              Estimated Vehicles Affected:
              446460


              Notes: FORD MOTOR COMPANY 07S51

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              • #8
                Standard Claims List For Model Year 2002
                Detailed Vehicle Specification

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                VIN VEH LINE MKT DERIV BODY CAB VER SERIES DRIVE TYPE PLT CD TRS CD ENG CD PROD DATE WARR DATE SELLING DEALER SELL CNT TIS WCC CPSC_6 PREF BASE SUFF CCC CD DIST(Miles)
                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 12 1F06 030302 1L8Z 8A080 BB G29 46 22601
                AWS Claim Key: 6559943 Trx Code: E84 Labor Hrs: 1
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04822 - * Name: GREENWAY FORD, INC. Ph: 407-2753200 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:17-JUL-2003 Doc #:09373651
                Cust Comments: O.R THAT THE RED COOLANT LIGHT IS COMING ON AND STAYING ON
                Tech Comments: SHORTED SENSOR EXPANSION OR COOLANT RECOVERY TANK REPLACE

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 21 6I05 010503 3L8Z 15A699 AAA J04 28 31532
                AWS Claim Key: 9502091 Trx Code: E84 Labor Hrs: 0.5
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04822 - * Name: GREENWAY FORD, INC. Ph: 407-2753200 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:18-MAR-2004 Doc #:04471252
                Cust Comments: C S MOON ROOF STICKS WHEN OPENING
                Tech Comments: OPEN VERIFIED CC BCE TEST CIRCUITS Q43 (VT) Q41 (WH) TRACED OPEN TO SWI

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 21 6P07 010301 YL8Z 7823552 AA N40 41 31704
                AWS Claim Key: 9550310 Trx Code: E84 Labor Hrs: 0.5
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04822 - * Name: GREENWAY FORD, INC. Ph: 407-2753200 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:23-MAR-2004 Doc #:04562751
                Cust Comments: C S RIGHT FRONT DOOR HAS CREEKING NOISE SPO HERE USE SPO 04078004
                Tech Comments: BINDING VERIFIED CC PASS FRONT DOOR CREAKING DOOR CK BINDING

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 23 * * * * * * * 33925
                AWS Claim Key: 10211252 Trx Code: 04S13 Labor Hrs: 0.4
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04924 - * Name: TROPICAL FORD Ph: 407-8513800 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:18-MAY-2004 Doc #:07087001
                Cust Comments: A99 RECALL 04S13...PCM RECALIBRATION
                Tech Comments: MILEAGE OUT 33,927. COMPLETED RECALL #04S13,REPROGRAMMED PCM WITH LATEST CALIB RATION USING WDS.

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 31 * * * * * * * 43396
                AWS Claim Key: 12619899 Trx Code: 04S25 Labor Hrs: 0.4
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04924 - * Name: TROPICAL FORD Ph: 407-8513800 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:26-JAN-2005 Doc #:10093701
                Cust Comments: A99 RECALL 04S25...ACCEL CABLE REPLACEMENT
                Tech Comments: RECALL 04S25 PERF RECALL 04S25. R&R ACCELERATOR CABLE

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 31 1F06 030302 1L8Z 8A080 BB G29 42 43396
                AWS Claim Key: 12619898 Trx Code: 0759D Labor Hrs: 0.8
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04924 - * Name: TROPICAL FORD Ph: 407-8513800 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:26-JAN-2005 Doc #:10093704
                Cust Comments: G29 CUST STS COOLANT LIGHT IS ON
                Tech Comments: FP 8A080 CC 42 VERIFY CONCERN. CHECK COOLANT LEVEL OK. PERF ELECTRICAL SYSTEM PINPOINT TESTS FOUND COOLANT SENSOR SHORTED. R&R

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 39 1H03 * * * * * * 50261
                AWS Claim Key: 14197352 Trx Code: 02M01 Labor Hrs: 0.4
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04924 - * Name: TROPICAL FORD Ph: 407-8513800 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:07-SEP-2005 Doc #:12738601
                Cust Comments: E 29 CUSTOMER STATES THAT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON
                Tech Comments: RECALL 02M01 EEC TEST KOEO P0401. PERF RECALL 02M01. R&R DPFE SENSOR AND CLEAR FAULT CODES. RETEST ALL OK. KOER P1000

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 42 7G03 120303 4L8Z 19860 AA C02 D8 53948
                AWS Claim Key: 14809177 Trx Code: 0759D Labor Hrs: 2.9
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04924 - * Name: TROPICAL FORD Ph: 407-8513800 St:FL Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:04-JAN-2006 Doc #:14035601
                Cust Comments: C02 CUST STS A C COOLS WELL EARLY IN THE DAY THEN STOPS COOLING WELL
                Tech Comments: 1 COMPLETED A C PERFORMANCE TEST,PARTIALLY RECHARGED SYSTEM, COMPLETED LEAK TEST USING DYE AND BLACK LIGHT. COMPLETED EVAP. CORE LEAK PRESSURE TEST,CONFIRMED LAEK AT EVAP. CORE. RECLAIMED FREON,DISASSEMBLED AND REMOVED CENTER CONSOLE AND DASH. TO ACCESS AND REMOVE EVAP CASE TO REPLCE CORE. REINST ALLED CASE,DASH AND CENTER CONSOLE. EVACUATED AND RECHARGED

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                1FMYU03112KD34245 T/M1 F T/WE T/EF T/A AJ T/DJ T/LD 23-APR-2002 25-JUL-2002 124224 USA 58 * * * * * * * 66607
                AWS Claim Key: 16084663 Trx Code: 07S51 Labor Hrs: 0.3
                Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02531 - * Name: BOB TOMES FORD Ph: 214-5445000 St:TX Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:16-APR-2007 Doc #:62725001
                Cust Comments: BRAKE OR ABS CONCERN A99 PERFORM ABS RECALL 07S51.
                Tech Comments: PERFORM RECALL 07S51 TIME 0.3

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                Recall has been done but may still have the problum all they did was inspect it pull the abs connector and look for any burnt pins.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by psdtech View Post

                  Recall has been done but may still have the problum all they did was inspect it pull the abs connector and look for any burnt pins.
                  How can I approach a dealership to look at it for free even though they have already done the recall? What am I looking at for them to find the problem, but not fix it. I can fix it, but I just need to know what is causing this issue.

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                  • #10
                    if the connector is melted you can call ford customer service and complain that it was not right and they may reopen the recall on it so it can be done free of charge. your not going to get any thing for free at the dealership esp if it was looked at in 07. have you pulled the abs code yet?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by psdtech View Post
                      if the connector is melted you can call ford customer service and complain that it was not right and they may reopen the recall on it so it can be done free of charge. your not going to get any thing for free at the dealership esp if it was looked at in 07. have you pulled the abs code yet?
                      That was my next step, I need to get my hands on my Dad's OBDII reader though, so it might be next week before I see him again. I was just really being thrown a curve ball with the fuses popping. All this started when the ABS light came on.

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                      • #12
                        I just wanted to update this thread mainly for Google search results (where I did a lot of my research to fix this)

                        First off...SCREW FORD DEALERSHIPS...love their cars but Parts & Service at Grapevine ford wanted $114.99 just to read the codes. Oreilly's did it for FREE.

                        Codes for my 2002 Escape ABS and E-Brake light came back as:

                        C1145 - Right Front ABS Sensor (Electrical/Static) (Bad sensor)
                        C1234 - ABS Outlet Valve Coil LR Circuit Short To Ground. (Shorts out somewhere)
                        B1676 - Battery voltage out of range.

                        Bought the FR wheel speed sensor from Oreilly's for $72 after tax (no core charge).

                        Replacement took about 20 minutes (just traced the old one, a bolt at a time) and I started the car...abs light is gone now

                        Took it out on a wet rainy night and slammed the brakes from about 45mph. ABS kicked in a pulsed, not ABS warning...kept me from skidding.

                        It's been gone for 96 hours now with over 100 miles put on the Escape...I am calling this one done.

                        Ford Quoted cost: $236.98
                        Actual Cost: $72.51

                        Fuses kept popping due to wife using a cheap chinese made car charger for her cell phone that had a short in it. Once I tossed it and told her to use her Sprint one, the fuses stayed.

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                        • #13
                          price difference is the cost of having someone else do the work for you.

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