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  • from scratch fox project, modern or 5.0 based?

    well, I need to figure this one out before I start sourcing the big pieces. Would you guys say build a fox (93 Cobra in my case) based around a 5.0 pushrod or a modern power-plant? The car is already meant to be non-original, so this seems more like a tech/power/reliability choice. I'm more familiar with the pushrod engine, so that alone has me thinking to go that direction, but so much progress has been made I was considering a boosted 4V (or similar).

    I think I could flirt with as much as 1000rwhp if I considered doing a modern engine, which seems like the practical upper limit of what this car should be. Somehow, I've got to make it a reliable car, mostly weekend duty, but I'd like the peace of mind to have all the power on tap w/o sweating a bang.

    This isn't a money-is-no-object project, but I'm prepared to have some coin wrapped up in it (especially in light of recent personal changes in my life). I mainly want to start w/ the real 93 Cobra as a base (perhaps a partial basket case), so that the end result is my favorite mustang with all the balls to back it up.



    Thanks fellas!

    oh and P.S. This car will need to have a flat stock hood, undecided on wheels, but basically I want it looking low-key with only hints of the danger lurking beneath the hood
    Yeah. 220... 221, whatever it takes...

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    Tits or gtfo newb
    Big Rooster Racing
    85' Coupe
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    • #3
      Originally posted by carbd89sleeper View Post
      Tits or gtfo newb
      x2 of the ex ball and chain.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TEAMJACOB View Post
        x2 of the ex ball and chain.
        Working on it!
        Yeah. 220... 221, whatever it takes...

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        • #5
          i say get after it man....a new boosted 5.0 coyote motor would be cool.
          1993 Vibrant Red Cobra #1741.

          If you want more inches - Stroke it!!!

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          • #6
            NASCAR swap. Lol.

            Twin turbo 5.4 DOHC.
            Twin turbo 4.6 DOHC.

            Single turbo 351.

            320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

            DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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            • #7
              turbo ls....

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              • #8
                3 things
                Tits or gtfo
                Turbo big inch small block (GET DA BIG ONE!)
                never, EVER listen to 91coupemike or 03shadow2v for car advice.

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                • #9
                  anyone getting strong performance/reliability near the 1K hp levels, on the new
                  5.0?

                  It'd be cool I think to still have a 5.0 in it.
                  Yeah. 220... 221, whatever it takes...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 93blacksnake View Post
                    anyone getting strong performance/reliability near the 1K hp levels, on the new
                    5.0?

                    It'd be cool I think to still have a 5.0 in it.
                    Going to have to build the engine. Stock Pistons are getting ate up with aggressive tunes.

                    The 2012 boss engine would be the best choice for higher hp.

                    320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

                    DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 93blacksnake View Post
                      anyone getting strong performance/reliability near the 1K hp levels, on the new
                      5.0?

                      It'd be cool I think to still have a 5.0 in it.
                      Being that this isn't a no budget build, I would think that cranking 1000hp out of a new 5.0 would get pretty expensive. I'd say do the swap, turbo it, and enjoy whatever it makes safely.

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                      • #12
                        Why do you want a real Cobra if you are going to alter it so far from original? Just find a clean GT and start your mods from there adding Fobra parts as you wish.

                        Single turbo 351, 4V w/ boost, or new 5.0 w/ boost....take your pick. There are also a lot of options for an old school 5.0 but you will need an aftermarket block at the power levels you mentioned.

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                        • #13
                          I'm a fan of stroked Windsors personally but if you went another route, I would do the terminator swap with some bolts ons.

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                          • #14
                            HY
                            Originally posted by slow84lx View Post
                            Why do you want a real Cobra if you are going to alter it so far from original? Just find a clean GT and start your mods from there adding Fobra parts as you wish.

                            Single turbo 351, 4V w/ boost, or new 5.0 w/ boost....take your pick. There are also a lot of options for an old school 5.0 but you will need an aftermarket block at the power levels you mentioned.
                            Most likely bc he wants to have fun in a real cobra
                            1993 Vibrant Red Cobra #1741.

                            If you want more inches - Stroke it!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FoxBodyNick View Post
                              HY

                              Most likely bc he wants to have fun in a real cobra
                              Yes, I've long wanted to build 'my' 93 Cobra, that's the only reason. I imagine I'll get 10k or so wrapped up in the base car, give or take. Being soon-to-be-single again, has just reinforced this.

                              I suppose boosted (TT) 4V (sourced 03+ Cobra) would 'match' a 93 Cobra build. Is that gonna fit under a flat hood though? I've gotta budget for a fully built bottom-end regardless on this.

                              I really need to research the latest motors though, to to be sure there isn't something that would sway me there. I gotta imagine, that would be the most expensive route though.
                              Yeah. 220... 221, whatever it takes...

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