Twin-Cobraman's predicament !! Lsx turbo sn-95?

[Steve]

SN95's are slow.

[YALE]

SN95's are slow.

I lol'd.

[Cobraman]

Maybe I can pick up a Mach 1 motor for around $2500 and eaton swap or Vortech it for the other $2500.

[YALE]

Maybe I can pick up a Mach 1 motor for around $2500 and eaton swap or Vortech it for the other $2500.

Or you can PM Baron and see what Aluminum blocked LSX engines are available from LKQ, and PM turbostang and see how he'd boost it on a budget.

[Cobraman]

Or you can PM Baron and see what Aluminum blocked LSX engines are available from LKQ, and PM turbostang and see how he'd boost it on a budget.

The more I think about it, the harder it seems. An Lsx would need mods to the mounts to fit, mods to the tranny to make the shifter come out the stock location, custom work for a/c and the gauge cluster, etc etc. It just seems like a bitch.

I just realized I'm gonna have to buy wheels and tires for one of em, so I'm down to like $4300. I can pick up

another 96-98 cobra motor w/ 70k for around $2500
A Mach one motor for around $3k
Matched to a t-56 tranny $700

Neither of which leave me much extra money. At that point id put lt's on and call it done.

[YALE]

The more I think about it, the harder it seems. An Lsx would need mods to the mounts to fit, mods to the tranny to make the shifter come out the stock location, custom work for a/c and the gauge cluster, etc etc. It just seems like a bitch.

I just realized I'm gonna have to buy wheels and tires for one of em, so I'm down to like $4300. I can pick up

another 96-98 cobra motor w/ 70k for around $2500
A Mach one motor for around $3k
Matched to a t-56 tranny $700

Neither of which leave me much extra money. At that point id put lt's on and call it done.

Sounds like a plan.

[Steve]

The more I think about it, the harder it seems. An Lsx would need mods to the mounts to fit, mods to the tranny to make the shifter come out the stock location, custom work for a/c and the gauge cluster, etc etc. It just seems like a bitch.

I just realized I'm gonna have to buy wheels and tires for one of em, so I'm down to like $4300. I can pick up

another 96-98 cobra motor w/ 70k for around $2500
A Mach one motor for around $3k
Matched to a t-56 tranny $700

Neither of which leave me much extra money. At that point id put lt's on and call it done.

You should have just bought mine and saved yourself a bunch of work and money.

[mystic96]

I'm not sure why you bought a Cobra roller when you already had a running and driving Cobra to work with, but whatever...

If you want to do the LS1, it's a piece of cake.

Here you go...

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/286585-new-discoveries-ls1-into-mustangs-swaps.html

[Cobraman]

I'm not sure why you bought a Cobra roller when you already had a running and driving Cobra to work with, but whatever...

If you want to do the LS1, it's a piece of cake.

Here you go...

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...ngs-swaps.html

Because it has a rebuilt 31spline built rear with 4.10's, coilovers, a tubular k, brand new a arms, new rear control arms, Subframe connectors, a two step, new trim pieces that I need, new headlight setup, catback, clean complete interior, new fr500 steering wheel, straight body with 105k, better paint, etc. And I got it for cheaper than you could imagine.

[mystic96]

Because it has a rebuilt 31spline built rear with 4.10's, coilovers, a tubular k, brand new a arms, new rear control arms, Subframe connectors, a two step, new trim pieces that I need, new headlight setup, catback, clean complete interior, new fr500 steering wheel, straight body with 105k, better paint, etc. And I got it for cheaper than you could imagine.

Well then pick which ever car is "nicer", swap all the good parts onto it, then sell the other one to fund the motor swap.

If you read that thread I posted, an LS1 bolts in with minimal modifications to the factory Ford mounts. My biggest hangup was the clutch setup, but now that there is a hydraulic conversion for these cable style Mustangs, it should be a piece of cake to get rolling

[Cobraman]

Looks like I'll probably pick up a 4v Mach motor, and pair it with a t-56 if I can find one cheap enough. If I have money, I'll put some longtubes on it. And then the rest of the summers money can go to paint. Etc.

That motor with longtubes will easily make 30rw more than mine, not to mention the lack of IMRC's, and make much better low to midrange torque. And no terrible rpms on the highway with a six speed. I think I'd be happy with that setup.

[Cobraman]

Well then pick which ever car is "nicer", swap all the good parts onto it, then sell the other one to fund the motor swap.

If you read that thread I posted, an LS1 bolts in with minimal modifications to the factory Ford mounts. My biggest hangup was the clutch setup, but now that there is a hydraulic conversion for these cable style Mustangs, it should be a piece of cake to get rolling

I'm swapping the interior from the black into the red and vice versa. I'm selling black to fund the swap but I have to buy some wheels and tires to sell it with.

What kind of cost we talking for the whole swap?

[dville_gt]

Before you start an lsx swap thinking it's a bolt in deal you need to realize that while it is not terribly difficult it is definitely not "bolt it". The wiring takes a lot of patience unless you buy a pre-converted harness from a vendor, the exhaust (even if you buy pre-fabbed swap stuff) takes some massaging to get in there right (and everything after the headers will have to be fabbed up), the driveshaft will have to be shortened for the t56, the clutch setup will take some fab work, and the list goes on and on. I don't say this to motivate you one way or the other, but I just don't want you to be under the false pretense that this project wont take any thought/time. Add on some custom lines for the a/c and power-steering/hydro-boost brakes if you are keeping any of that. If you go with a 2003+ motor most of them are drive by wire so you either have to pick up an electronic pedal and find a way to mount it along with a TAC module or you have to convert it to drive by cable (only a few PCM's can accept this conversion), for a/c the newer PCM's want a serial A/C request signal so if you want the PCM to control A/C you are up shit creek unless you have a PCM that can get +12v a/c request. You will have to get the PCM programmed to work with the swap (remove VAT's, rear o2's, evap, etc.). The actual 5.7l LS1's are over priced IMO, the iron blocks weight ~70lbs more, they are a lot stronger, cheaper, and if you get a 6.0l/6.2l they make quite a bit more power. Complete T56's still command a premium, often times selling for ~$1500. For the $380 shipped that AJE sells their LSx conversion K-member for I'd do that versus trying to make the QA1 work, I'd just sell the QA1 for as much as you can and add a few bucks to get something that is engineered for the swap (plus then you can use their cross member for the transmission with no modification). The long and short of it is that the LSx swap is awesome, it's just not as cheap nor as easy as some make it sound.

[2165 Turbo Rail]

why not put your motor and tranny in the new car, sell the old one and buy a blower?

[ELVIS]

ive got some 03 cobra replicas, and i still want that black cobra hood!

god bless.