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  • Driving with no sway-bars

    The coupe has D&D coilovers on Lakewood 50/50's and 90/10's (front and rear). I am not running any sway bar at the moment (eventually would like to put an anti-roll bar on the rear). When I am driving and I turn a tight corner the car seems to dive into the side opposite that I am turning. I assume this is because there is no sway bar.

    If you had a weekend cruiser/track toy like this how would you rectify this? Just deal with it (I am running on skinny's and et streets with a spool so handling isn't exactly in this cars vocabulary anyway). Add a rear swaybar, add a rear swaybar and front swaybar? Add an anti-roll bar, add an anti-roll bar and front sway bar and just remove sway bar links at the track?

  • #2
    How can you drive without a transmission?



    Just messin with ya.

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    • #3
      just get a front bar, it takes all of 2 minutes to remove it at the track.

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      • #4
        I drive mine around with no front swaybar and an anti-roll bar in the rear and it's not a problem. I don't see any point in putting a front bar on it if you're not worried about handling.
        With the 4-link rear you will want to at least put a swaybar on it because the way the shitty design is and how it attaches it actually keeps the lower arms from deflecting laterally as much and puts less strain on your torque boxes. But if you plan to race the car a lot I would recommend an anti-roll bar.
        Atlantic Blue '00 - '03 Cobra motor and TKO600, solid axle, full MM suspension
        Silver '01 Vette - D1 blown LS

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        • #5
          Okay, slight derail. Just looking at some pictures and I don't have the stock mounts for a front swaybar. Anyway to add a provision?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Trick Pony View Post
            I drive mine around with no front swaybar and an anti-roll bar in the rear and it's not a problem. I don't see any point in putting a front bar on it if you're not worried about handling.
            With the 4-link rear you will want to at least put a swaybar on it because the way the shitty design is and how it attaches it actually keeps the lower arms from deflecting laterally as much and puts less strain on your torque boxes. But if you plan to race the car a lot I would recommend an anti-roll bar.
            How has your anti-roll bar held up to street use. Granted this car is not driven a lot, but it will be driven.

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            • #7
              Oh, and I have tubular control arms that have no provision for a stock style sway bar. So for the rear it'll have to be an anti-roll bar.

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              • #8
                sway bar isolates bump from roll, if you have enough spring to hold car up, it might as well be solid suspension. A properly designed and installed sway bar doesn't limit up travel, if it does, it is influencing spring rate........

                a rear bar will not limt roll associated with steering angle, instead it lifts the inside rear tire off the ground.......

                front bar tightens up a race car, rear bar loosens up a race car
                pinto gt with wood trim

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Grape View Post
                  sway bar isolates bump from roll, if you have enough spring to hold car up, it might as well be solid suspension. A properly designed and installed sway bar doesn't limit up travel, if it does, it is influencing spring rate........
                  This makes sense, so my problem sounds more like a spring rate problem then a sway-bar issue?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
                    This makes sense, so my problem sounds more like a spring rate problem then a sway-bar issue?
                    drag front springs are usually waaaay soft, this combined without a front bar is dangerous on the street. rear anti roll bars used in drag racing are to combat the unequal loading of the rear tires due to driveshaft rotation.
                    pinto gt with wood trim

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Grape View Post
                      drag front springs are usually waaaay soft, this combined without a front bar is dangerous on the street. rear anti roll bars used in drag racing are to combat the unequal loading of the rear tires due to driveshaft rotation.
                      So if the car is geared to be 50/50 street/strip would you add a frnt sway bar or just go to a stiffer front spring?

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                      • #12
                        I have 90/10 in front, 50/50 rear, cal tracs, rear sway and NO front sway bar. It does fine but I also don't act like it is a road racer either.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
                          I have 90/10 in front, 50/50 rear, cal tracs, rear sway and NO front sway bar. It does fine but I also don't act like it is a road racer either.
                          have something happen in front of you on the freeway where you have to change lanes and use the brakes..........you will be back glass deep in the fence.
                          pinto gt with wood trim

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
                            So if the car is geared to be 50/50 street/strip would you add a frnt sway bar or just go to a stiffer front spring?
                            put a bar on it
                            pinto gt with wood trim

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grape View Post
                              put a bar on it
                              I agree . If your mounts are gone cut some off a junk car and weld them on yours .
                              Big Rooster Racing

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