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The Union's are out of touch with the current economic paradigm.
Obama settled his debt with them, via the bailouts, which is basically what
the Unions wanted. Only problem is, the Unions are not viable in the current
economic paradigm. Plus, judging by what I see in the economy going forward,
Unions will continue to have a dimishing role as well.
Companies don't want them, local governments don't want them, and increasing
numbers of people don't want to join them due to the economic forces et al.
And now they are finding out that their man in gov't Obama is going to cost
them a bit more than they expected with the universal healthscare burden.
The Union lobby sounds like a real gem to me.
Looking at this situation from the outside, Obama has played the Unions like a fiddle,
and they are going by the wayside. Unions failed to see their landscape changing
for decades, failed to judiciously wield their once powerful sway and lobby the key
changes in the government tide that affects middle class employent and the US
economy. They failed to get the picture that Obama's agenda moves the US closer
to a welfare state, which does nothing to help Unions and of course it's paid for by
the middle class(Union folk).
They failed to see that Insurance monies for political support trump Union monies
for political support, now and forever more.
Obama was their last and best chance to help muster some kind of comeback,
and they got played.Jay Johnson
Car hauler for hire
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Originally posted by Craizie View PostWhere I come from, skilled specialized professionals don't need unions.
This isn't directed personally to you crazie:
It all comes down to worrying about yourself. I don't care what happens at Joe's shop across town. Just like I don't care what my neighbors do. As long as the checks clear on the 10th and 25th and my family is taken care of that's all I worry about. It's funny how ate up some people and groups are about what others do. This goes for everything and everybody.
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Originally posted by FreightTrain View PostYea they also have lower pay, shittier insurance, and a crappy retirement. Check please !!!!!!
This isn't directed personally to you crazie:
It all comes down to worrying about yourself. I don't care what happens at Joe's shop across town. Just like I don't care what my neighbors do. As long as the checks clear on the 10th and 25th and my family is taken care of that's all I worry about. It's funny how ate up some people and groups are about what others do. This goes for everything and everybody.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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Originally posted by FreightTrain View PostYou would be wrong.
I'll listen to your benefits union boyLast edited by Forever_frost; 02-01-2013, 07:06 PM.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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Originally posted by FreightTrain View PostNo one in my union is a "Lower Paid Member." So I guess this doesn't apply to me or my union. If you're only making $8 to $10 an hour you got bigger problems than a union. I'd look for a career in a different line of work. Of course I also believe that only skilled, specialized, and licensed professions should be able to form unions in the first place. We don't need a lunch lady union, or a semstress union. All those do is cheapen the cause of the legitimate unions.
You should record this and then play it back to yourself so you can hear how stupid and self important you sound.
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I used to have decent health insurance. Now, my premiums will be going up 2 or 3x with
universal healthscare, because someone has to subsidize the parasite class
and just wait until people begin to see the quality level of gov't care. I believe even the parasite
class will be pushing back when they see the quality that is being paid for them.Jay Johnson
Car hauler for hire
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Originally posted by naynay View Postdont worry, i just a broke down/ high rollin pipefitter with nothin else to lose, i says what i says and thats all i can say, if you need me to fab you a new cane just give me some E-C measusurements and i'll bend you a nice 304L 3rd leg big dog!Originally posted by Sean88gtYou can take white off the list. White on anything is the best, including vehicles, women, and the Presidency.Originally posted by Baron Von CrowderYou can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five in an eighteen-wheeler.
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Originally posted by FreightTrain View PostI guess our opinions of excellent aren't the same.
We get it, you're over paid for working way too many hours at a shitty job because of the unions. Stop acting like you're skilled labor. What you do is nothing compared to the labor of someone such as slow99. Again, you drive a train. Repeat that. You drive a train.
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Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostLol why is every post you make a thinly veiled attempt at 1 upping someone financially?
We get it, you're over paid for working way too many hours at a shitty job because of the unions. Stop acting like you're skilled labor. What you do is nothing compared to the labor of someone such as slow99. Again, you drive a train. Repeat that. You drive a train.
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Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostLol why is every post you make a thinly veiled attempt at 1 upping someone financially?
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Originally posted by The King View PostHe can attempt all he wants but since he knows absolutely nothing about me or my financial means his post is but another example of common internet trash. All he accomplishes is confirming, as usual, that he is but a petty little fool.
I guess the same could be said about you.
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