hypocrites

[Damnittsteve]

that was kinda the point. and believe it or not i didnt feel any pain doing it. i felt warm, i thought it was me leaving this place but the doctors said it was just my neck and chest covered in blood that warmed me up.

[Sean88gt]

New respect for you, that's a pirate suicide!

[cobrajet69]

Ultimately the patient choose to commit suicide. The act of suicide is selfish by nature. The patient had the choice to take the additional medication. Provided they aren't locked in a mental heath ward or under 24 hour supervision. (I used to have to be that supervisor, not fun.)

I would say that in most suicide cases, you couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm suggesting that most people who take this act are not in their right mind, in the most literal sense of the word. So with sanity out of control, little to no reasoning ability, and with a complete absence of any hope, it's no wonder this is the "choice" they make.

And on the original topic at hand; Anyone who's been on this board for any length of time knows exactly what the OP is referring to, myself included. With that said, I would also agree that the timing is yet... another bad choice.


David

[Couver]

that was kinda the point. and believe it or not i didnt feel any pain doing it. i felt warm, i thought it was me leaving this place but the doctors said it was just my neck and chest covered in blood that warmed me up.

I know it's not a smackatorium worthy post but I for one am happy you did not succeed.

I am lucky enough to never have faced that demon. I have given it a passing thought sometimes but focus on positives when I get that way. I have a whole lot more reasons to stick around then not. I have had a few friends do it though and it is always a big WHY?

[Sean88gt]

I understand and have raised the question myself (more blatantly) but the timing on this one is bad.

Hey asshole, clear your PM's.

[VaderTT]

i have the scars to prove it levi. hell if you dont believe me ask sneaky or Andrew. i was at sneakys garage a week later working on the fairmont with a big ass bandage on my neck. theres a pic somewhere out there of that day too. i have my skelatons in the closet to levi. not something im proud of.

Shit dude! I'm glad you suck at killing yourself. No matter what anyone on here says, you're pretty cool in my book.

Hey asshole, clear your PM's.

I gots dis!

[Damnittsteve]

thanks phil

[AMJ]

How about when someone is put on antidepressants and in a few instances it can cause suicidal ideation.....then it is brought up to the psychiatrist that this is happening so the psychiatrist ups the dosage eventually pushing the patient into suicide?

been there done that.is it a selfish act?depends on the person and the pain they're feeling, what theyve been through.been there done that. 45,000mg of depacote.the meds can push the depression deeper that's what it did to me.ppl that make fun of suicide are assholes, because they dont see it from that persons eyes/veiw.you dont know the perspective they see it in.alot of it is ppl tryin to get away from the pain the memory's what have you.

Alex

[CWO]

Is this really necessary? I think you need to reevaluate the definitions of discretion and hypocrisy to find your answer.

It better be a real skin dong. I don't go for those uncomfortable hard rubber numbers.

Yeah, I'm the one way off base.

[VaderTT]

On a scale of shittyness.

Badly timed Thread > One comment in a string of side bar conversations


I understand this question, but don't make yourself out to be a saint dude.

[CWO]

On a scale of shittyness.

Badly timed Thread > One comment in a string of side bar conversations


I understand this question, but don't make yourself out to be a saint dude.

You were having a conversation about dildos in a memorial thread with someone that questioned my discretion, not a sidebar!


This thread is perfectly timed, it was a long time coming.

[CWO]

I'm far from a saint, but damn.

[Vertnut]

After going through the suicide of a family member (1984), I think there are stages people go through. A lot of it depends on the relationship you had with that person. I got to the "selfish" stage when I saw the shape he left his kids in. The guilt they feel to this day, would be unimagineable for most of us. My BIL was a healthy 38-year-old, and what he did ruined both his kids. I'm raising his grandson as we speak, because my niece is a ward of the state. He was a Viet Nam vet (2 tours with the Marines in '66/'67), and I feel like that had a lot to do with his demons.
We don't REALLY know what each of us are thinking or going through emotionally.
Regardless of the details, it's a sad, pitiful event that leaves survivors looking for answers.

[DON SVO]

It wouldn't matter when this thread came up, it would still be tied to Luis/Tony Scott simply because that's the analogy bring drawn. It's obvious and IMO a fair comparison for the sake of the subject matter. Whether I/we/anyone likes it or not, suicide is something that can never be quantified by sane & right-minded people. Survivors of their attempts all have differing reasons for the act: the successful ones never take their reasoning into the ground. "Suicide notes'' often leave more questions than answers for the ones the note is supposed to console. The actor knows that what they are doing isn't logical but does so anyways for whatever reasons they have deemed factual and (at the time) infallible. The actor is essentially asking for forgiveness of finality when they have to try to explain such a catastrophic action. The bereaved can't respond to a note: all they can do is draw conclusions from something that was written in a highly-charged emotional instance. There is hardly an solace in the act or the actor's explanation, but there is definitely a lot of conjecture and questions that MANY loved ones wish they could get an answer to.

I'll use Steve as an example for my last statement: he tried to end his life and was unsuccessful. Why did he not attempt to do it again as soon as he was able? He seems to have recanted his original opinion. If he had been successful he never would have had that chance.

People that kill themselves aren't square between the ears at the moment of truth. That's all I can draw from personal experience and that will never change. I'll never understand why someone can do it because, when they succeed, the dead tell no tales. I'll never get answers because I can't ask any questions. It's as simple as that. I pray that those who feel life is no longer worth continuing confide in someone before doing something irreversible and permanent.

[ThreeFingerPete]

I think Suicide is WRONG and an easy way out.. I think anyone who commit suicide is giving up and being a bitch.


That being said.. i will miss my friend who commited suicide.. Im not condoning what was done in any way.. nor am i saying because he did it its better than some one else.. I would celebrate his life and the loss of his pressensce in my life, not how he died..

A man has the right to end his life, and barring a wife or children, he doesn't owe you or anyone a thing, not a single weary breath beyond when the choice is made. A logical person could absolutely decide that they weren't interested in continuing life. You have every right to be upset by someone's death, but in the end, that's your opinion and it carries little weight on matters of this nature.