hypocrites

[talisman]

This discussion was had last week. This is pretty fucking low, Tim.

We're usually on the same page man, but I disagree. This has honestly been bothering me quite a bit the last few days. The morally superior attitude some people assign themselves on here is staggering. I'm often left reading a thread wondering what people would say if the subject had been someone they were close to. This would be a good time to reevaluate being so flippant.

[SS Junk]

I don't get it.

Neither do I. A few years ago there was a story of a father killing his kid while driving reckless. Went around a corner too fast and hit a tree on the passenger side. The responses were unbelievable. One of the biggest mouths then looses a friend after killing himself driving drunk. I called him on it and of course he went ape shit crazy. "It's just the name of the game." Human nature and all that bullshit.

[CWO]

He was not just a random person, well he was to me outside of the forum.
He was someone who worked for us taxpayers, arrested scumbags, drove down your street at night to make sure your family was safe, stuck his hands in misc. crackheads pockets, and he also rode mountain bikes. A true contributor to society.

You should be ashamed of yourself to drag him through the mud like this.

You missed the point, entirely. I'm not taking anything away from anyone and not dragging anyone through anything.

[Grape]

the OP wasn't saying the cop shouldn't be celebrated, he's just saying that the jealous low life fucks who talked shit about the director killing himself, are blinded by their own ignorance.

[Jester]

We're usually on the same page man, but I disagree. This has honestly been bothering me quite a bit the last few days. The morally superior attitude some people assign themselves on here is staggering. I'm often left reading a thread wondering what people would say if the subject had been someone they were close to. This would be a good time to reevaluate being so flippant.

yep. same thing crossed my mind.

[mustang1200]

Suicide usually is a selfish act, but not always. The reason they are celebrated by people who knew them is a way to cope, and come to terms.

I do tend to think less of people who chose that way out. I dont care how great of a person they are.

How is it not always a selfish act? It's a serious question because I can't think of a single instance that doesn't make it selfish.

Suicide is an extremely selfish act. You've basically held no regard for anyone in your family or the people who care for you. It should be treated the same regardless of who the person is that committed the act.

[slow99]

This place has always served as a virtual case study for hypocrisy. That being said, I think I would have filed it in the mental rolodex for discussion in a couple weeks. This one still stings.

[Jester]

How is it not always a selfish act? It's a serious question because I can't think of a single instance that doesn't make it selfish.

Suicide is an extremely selfish act. You've basically held no regard for anyone in your family or the people who care for you. It should be treated the same regardless of who the person is that committed the act.

How about when someone is put on antidepressants and in a few instances it can cause suicidal ideation.....then it is brought up to the psychiatrist that this is happening so the psychiatrist ups the dosage eventually pushing the patient into suicide?

[bcoop]

Keep in mind, his obituary isn't even out yet. His fiancée reads the board. Anyone who googles his name right now can easily run across this thread, including his parents and his children. Do you want to be the asshole making an already difficult situation worse for everyone that's dealing with the tragedy?

When the producer jumped off a bridge last week because he had terminal cancer, I said the exact same thing. When shit like this happens to someone close to you, it can certainly change your views. There might be 10 people here who really know what he's been dealing with. And only one person here who knows what actually happened in the moment. Luis is being celebrated because it's a life worth celebrating. He was a good man, and his memory should live on.

[Treasure Chest]

This place has always served as a virtual case study for hypocrisy. That being said, I think I would have filed it in the mental rolodex for discussion in a couple weeks. This one still stings.

My thoughts exactly.

[talisman]

He was not just a random person, well he was to me outside of the forum.
He was someone who worked for us taxpayers, arrested scumbags, drove down your street at night to make sure your family was safe, stuck his hands in misc. crackheads pockets, and he also rode mountain bikes. A true contributor to society.

You should be ashamed of yourself to drag him through the mud like this.

He is not saying anything disparaging about Luis. Getting down to brass tacks, this doesn't have to be about Luis in the slightest, though the thought process is obviously connected. He is talking about people on here talking shit about one subject since it doesn't relate to them, then completely reversing their stance the second it does hit home and affect them.

[90GT50]

You have a point, Tim. But it's a little too soon.

[black2002ls]

How is it not always a selfish act? It's a serious question because I can't think of a single instance that doesn't make it selfish.

Suicide is an extremely selfish act. You've basically held no regard for anyone in your family or the people who care for you. It should be treated the same regardless of who the person is that committed the act.

Think of a cancer patient or someone suffering from some other terminal illness. They decide to forgo any further treatment, they have fought the good fight for long enough. They don't want their friends and family to remember them as a withering soul. They don't want their last memories to be of someone clinging to the last bit of life they have left, suffering, just a shell of their former self. They would rather their family's last memories be that of times they have shared together, the happy times, not the suffering. That is, in a way suicide.

[mustang1200]

How about when someone is put on antidepressants and in a few instances it can cause suicidal ideation.....then it is brought up to the psychiatrist that this is happening so the psychiatrist ups the dosage eventually pushing the patient into suicide?

Ultimately the patient choose to commit suicide. The act of suicide is selfish by nature. The patient had the choice to take the additional medication. Provided they aren't locked in a mental heath ward or under 24 hour supervision. (I used to have to be that supervisor, not fun.)

[TeeShock]

You missed the point, entirely. I'm not taking anything away from anyone and not dragging anyone through anything.

So why did you post 48 hours later