May need a lawyer... DVORCE NEVER ENDS

[slow99]

I understand the breastfeeding, but fuck that cloth diaper shit! Sometimes you just gotta pay...

No shit.

I was talking to a buddy at work the other day who has a 5 month old. He's as liberal as they come (green earth, all that shit...in San Francisco imagine that) and he said, "Fuck that cloth shit, that shit is nasty. We had to go disposable."

Not every woman can breast feed either, apparently. Hell I don't know, but he said they tried but had to end up going with formula.

[davbrucas]

I am sure your little butt buddies on here may get a laugh from that but how do you see my thoughts as liberal? If you would like to engage in an adult convo....I will gladly join you...but if you are going for sound bites here then have at. I am sure your little following will jump on your wagon no matter what you say. And like you eluded: Since I don't hang out with anyone on here I am not entitled to an opinion that differs from the old shoolers on here. And for the record...I don't declare myself liberal/conservative/GOP/democrat/or any other titles you want to try to attribute to me. Good luck to you...


Lantirn....I just think there is a separation of the state and its people. And I feel what I said about child support. Apparently I am wrong according to talisman, roscoe, the good doctor and bassics so I will end my "long winded" diatribe and bow out.

LOL...dont take this shit personally. It's just good natured shit talking. Clown was a little harsh...

[Bassics]

LOL...dont take this shit personally. It's just good natured shit talking. Clown was a little harsh...

I thought it was a little bit reserved myself.

Exactly what does it cost to raise a child? And why should it vary much, if any?

And what are these pills that are blue and yellow? LOL, bet you haven't seen these in years man, I had to find an actual pharmacist to fill them...

[Treasure Chest]

I understand the breastfeeding, but fuck that cloth diaper shit! Sometimes you just gotta pay...

It's really not that bad. My daughter was allergic to disposables, so I was forced into it kicking and screaming, but ended up loving it. It was a $200 investment and two extra loads of laundry a week.

[bcoop]

The only reason any of this absurdity exists is because women have a powerful lobby in this state. Brent has seen firsthand what it has gotten them.

We have a winner.

[Denny]

It's really not that bad. My daughter was allergic to disposables, so I was forced into it kicking and screaming, but ended up loving it. It was a $200 investment and two extra loads of laundry a week.

My yougest is 3 and potty trained. I can now return home.

[Treasure Chest]

No shit.

I was talking to a buddy at work the other day who has a 5 month old. He's as liberal as they come (green earth, all that shit...in San Francisco imagine that) and he said, "Fuck that cloth shit, that shit is nasty. We had to go disposable."

Not every woman can breast feed either, apparently. Hell I don't know, but he said they tried but had to end up going with formula.

It's really not too terribly bad. I was surprised. Breastfeeding was a bit more difficult, but very few doctors really support it. They say that the breast is best, but they tend to sabotage nursing relationships with numbers and supplementation. No offense to the drs here, but very few that I have met were truly pro breastfeeding.

[davbrucas]

Both of my boys breastfed until 6mos of age. I support it.

[Bassics]

Anyone who has tried both breast milk and formula would see the difference.

[Treasure Chest]

Both of my boys breastfed until 6mos of age. I support it.

I have a wonderful pedi who supported exclusive breastfeeding to 6 mo and supported me in going a year plus. She's also the one who told me to talk to my Dr about raynaud's. Many I've seen are quick to say, You tried. It's not for everyone. Here, start supplementing with this formula."

[Smurfette]

I have a wonderful pedi who supported exclusive breastfeeding to 6 mo and supported me in going a year plus. She's also the one who told me to talk to my Dr about raynaud's. Many I've seen are quick to say, You tried. It's not for everyone. Here, start supplementing with this formula."

^^This..I breastfed both of my kids for 14 months and donated my excess milk to help preemies in the NICU. Neither one of my kids has ever had an ear infection or any type of allergies. Not to mention how much easier it is to feed in the middle of the night versus heating up a bottle.

[Roscoe]

You got the math wrong. If you expect to pay $1K a month then in theory it costs $2K a month to care for the kid. I'd say over $1K a month is right for a lot of cases, my boy included. But $2K a month all in cost would be ridiculous.

Let's not forget cost of healthcare... I think $2k a month is close to accurate, let's look at it like this - if you're paying child support you obviously don't have joint custody and can get by in a 1bd apartment, whereas the supporting parent has to at least maintain a 2bd + all associated expenses...

There are many other costs involved that you don't consider at face value.

[Treasure Chest]

Let's not forget cost of healthcare... I think $2k a month is close to accurate, let's look at it like this - if you're paying child support you obviously don't have joint custody and can get by in a 1bd apartment, whereas the supporting parent has to at least maintain a 2bd + all associated expenses...

There are many other costs involved that you don't consider at face value.

Also, if you're a non-custodial parent carrying health insurance on your child, they will deduct the premium for the child from the amount paid.

[forbes]

As someone with 2 stepkids ( i never had any) I can tell you its crazy what it costs to raise a child. There dad doesnt pay a dime. It was definatly an eye opener for me.

[slow84lx]

Let's not forget cost of healthcare... I think $2k a month is close to accurate, let's look at it like this - if you're paying child support you obviously don't have joint custody and can get by in a 1bd apartment, whereas the supporting parent has to at least maintain a 2bd + all associated expenses...

There are many other costs involved that you don't consider at face value.

This isn't correct and I respectfully agree to disagree.

If you are paying child support you still have to have a place for your kids to play and sleep when they are with you. Living in a tiny 1 bedroom apartment can get you by for a while (especially when they are very small) but you want the kids to be comfortable too, and live in a safe place where there are other kids their age to play with.

$2k a month is far beyond the cost of healthcare in all but a few cases.

You can have joint custody and still pay child support.

Roscoe, I've read some of your comments and do not agree with most of them. I've been raising / supporting my 3 kids since the divorce 13 years ago and have a lot of experience (much of it bad) to speak from. Normally I just read and keep my thoughts to myself. This time I needed to let it out.

It really sucks to know that the ex-wife and a series of new hubby's live in an expensive home (the kids benefit here), drive new cars, do plenty of going out to dinner / concerts, while the kids come to my house always wearing ragamuffin clothes with holes in them, needing books for school / new glasses / contacts / haircuts, etc., that Mom says she cannot pay for despite all of the $$$ she gets in child support.

BTW, her new hubby of the last 3 years works minimum wage jobs. I can definitely say that the child support money in this case is really (at least partially) new hubby support money. If the kids got the full benefit of the $$$ I would have no complaints. When the kids were small we had joint custody and I paid $13k per year directly to the day care center on top of providing for the other kids needs. This was expensive but worked for me much better than the current method of the state deducting 30% directly from my paycheck and handing it to her as spending money. She has never had a budget or any control over her spending. Thankfully the kids are all teenagers now and child support (directly to her through the state) will be ending soon. I have no problem supporting / helping my kids become good, upstanding adults but do completely disagree with the methods that the AG / court system treat Father's in divorce / child support cases. Mom can do anything she wants to do (including blatantly violating all facets of the divorce decree) and the state doesn't care one bit about the Father's rights that are being violated......but, keep on paying that money to Momma cause that is all that matters.