I'm Pretty Sure My Wife Is Getting Fired or Laid Off Tomorrow

[ThreeFingerPete]

Take you to court for theft of proprietary information.

Seriously.

More specifically, I would just format the drive a few times. Fuck em. It's not theft, and if I'm being fired for being inept, then let's dance

[Skidmark]

Most people think the company will go down if person X is removed, but it won't.

Even I try to gain as much "tribal" knowledge as possible, but someone would be able to figure it out.

Glad she didn't get canned. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise and she'll find a much better gig.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Most people think the company will go down if person X is removed, but it won't.

Even I try to gain as much "tribal" knowledge as possible, but someone would be able to figure it out.

Glad she didn't get canned. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise and she'll find a much better gig.

Everyone is replaceable, but if you're a key player and your boss shits on you, then it's okay to revel in how stressed out and miserable they are trying to figure shit out.

[GT Fanatic]

Everyone is replaceable, but if you're a key player and your boss shits on you, then it's okay to revel in how stressed out and miserable they are trying to figure shit out.

Thanks for saying that for me. I myself have learned my lesson thinking I couldn't be replaced. I was the best at what I did, but I didn't start out the best. Anybody can learn something in time.

[Craizie]

I have seen a a lot of people mistreated at work, flat out firing people over personal grudges ect. Basically, there's nothing you can do if its not documented or you have someone in management going to bat for you (good luck getting that).


Short version: Fucked.

[Craizie]

Fuck you for any referrals that may be required for future employment.

Seriously.

Don't ever burn bridges with prior employers... It's a small world.

Speaking of, I had a company fax me a "performance evaluation" (kind of what you would see at a chain restaurant for service) for a previous employee at my work, which he signed stating it was OK to fill out. I was under the impression you couldn't divulge to much information when a new employer calls for reference.

[YALE]

Speaking of, I had a company fax me a "performance evaluation" (kind of what you would see at a chain restaurant for service) for a previous employee at my work, which he signed stating it was OK to fill out. I was under the impression you couldn't divulge to much information when a new employer calls for reference.

You can't ask for it, so if you didn't, you're covered. It's an ethical gray area for a decision to hire, though.

[ceyko]

Thanks for saying that for me. I myself have learned my lesson thinking I couldn't be replaced. I was the best at what I did, but I didn't start out the best. Anybody can learn something in time.

I've been in jobs where, people (myself and another) were not really replaceable (100%, we built everything in that country for the company we worked for...). However, after we quit my company simply met the MINIMUM to keep the contract going. That all that REALLY matters to a company in the end anyway.

They don't give a flying shit about much other then the business side and that's reality. In my case, outages were longer, DoA/COR was pissed and so on. However, when it boiled down to it - the company did the minimum.

Take care,

[ceyko]

I did this. In Iraq I had enough with one of my peice of shit bosses. I had just finished fingerprinting over 500 individuals and I was given 30 minutes notice to fly to the IZ with the computer and scanner. Waiting for my ride at the HLZ I pulled everything off and stored it on a thumbdrive. My plan was to beat his ass stupid with the pelican case and let them fire me. "sure I will go get my things but you might want to pull up the files, I haven't done anything in the past two weeks that a check couldn't cover".

In the end the douche bag manager bailed before I got there and I had to pull out some bullshit to open the computer back up and put the file back on it.

Please don't tell me you pulled off people's personal information onto your personal gear for some personal bullshit. Please tell me that is not the case.

Also, if it is the case or not - I don't need to hear about how it is not secure anyway. There is a clear difference between being malicious with it and official duties.

I apologize if I'm reading too much into what you did NOT actually say.

[talisman]

Speaking of, I had a company fax me a "performance evaluation" (kind of what you would see at a chain restaurant for service) for a previous employee at my work, which he signed stating it was OK to fill out. I was under the impression you couldn't divulge to much information when a new employer calls for reference.

You can pretty much give out ANY information you want about a previous employee. The problem is, that if it is negative and that former employee doesn't get the job and finds out you did it, he can now sue your ass and you'll probably lose. There are a TON of grey areas. You have to be creative.

If someone calls me to ask about someone I fired for stealing I tell them I can give their employments dates and title, but if they need more information I can give them the phone number to my Loss Prevention Auditor.. I have yet to have someone who didn't get the point and asked for the number..

[quikag]

Agree with Talisman. It's a dangerous road to give out more than the following on a former employee:

Date of hire
Last date of employment
Job title when they left.

That's it. If a prospective employer asks for more information, I tell them that it's against our company policy to provide more information than what has been provided. It's clean and limits liability.

All that said, if it was a rock star former employee who left on good terms, it's okay to put in a good word for them informally.

But if you don't have anything good to say, just provide the 3 bits of info referenced above.

OP, glad it "worked out" with you wife. Hope things smooth out at her current employer or that other job works out.

[yellowstang]

Tell her to ask for a raise now!

[DON SVO]

Good luck with proving maliciousness. Coffee on a computer happens. Or accidentally deleting the wrong files

More specifically, I would just format the drive a few times. Fuck em. It's not theft, and if I'm being fired for being inept, then let's dance

Deleted files can be recovered. Deleted and reformatted files all have dates of last activity... The company (if they have half a brain) can save the documentation of asking for certain things while the employee was still in a capacity of being employed: delete and reformat AFTER that date???

She's on probation for 4 months and paid $1,000 in fines.

[Roscoe]

You can also legally give salary information...

[Treasure Chest]

You can pretty much give out ANY information you want about a previous employee. The problem is, that if it is negative and that former employee doesn't get the job and finds out you did it, he can now sue your ass and you'll probably lose. There are a TON of grey areas. You have to be creative.

If someone calls me to ask about someone I fired for stealing I tell them I can give their employments dates and title, but if they need more information I can give them the phone number to my Loss Prevention Auditor.. I have yet to have someone who didn't get the point and asked for the number..

We weren't even allowed to confirm employment at the last store I managed. All inquiries were given the employment line which was an automated system that verified dates of employment and title only. It had no information on the rehire eligibility or pay, just the basics.