AT&T bought T-mobile...

[90GT50]

I have had nothing but problems the last 6 or so months out of T-Mobile. Calls dropping and the internet has been the worst.

How old is your SIM?

[SMKR]

The lull of my lazy, rainy weekend was broken by the news that AT&T plans to acquire T-Mobile USA for a whopping $39 billion in cash and stock. The question is who wins and who loses in this deal. It is hard to find winners apart from AT&T and T-Mobile shareholders. Here is who loses according to me in this deal:

Consumers: The biggest losers of this deal are going to be the consumers. While AT&T and T-Mobile are going to try to spin it as a good deal to combine wireless spectrum assets, the fact is that T-Mobile USA is now out of the market.

T-Mobile USA has been fairly aggressive in offering cheaper voice and data plans as it has tried to compete with its larger brethren. The competition has kept the prices in the market low enough. This has worked well for U.S. consumers. With the merger of AT&T & T-Mobile, the market is now reduced to three national players – AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. Net-net U.S. consumers are going to lose.

Phone Handset Makers: Before the merger was announced, the handset makers such as HTC and Motorola had two major carriers who could buy their GSM-based phones. They just lost any ability to control price and profits on handsets because now there is a single buyer that can dictate what GSM phones come to market. Even with LTE become the standard for the 4G world, it would essentially be a market dominated by three buyers (should Sprint go with LTE), which would place handset makers at the mercy of the giants.

Sprint: The nation’s third-largest carrier was in talks to buy T-Mobile according to Bloomberg, but AT&T’s offer has now pushed Sprint to the bottom of the pile in terms of size and potentially spectrum assets if it goes through. If it doesn’t go through then Sprint now has a price it has to match in order to get its hands on T-Mobile. Plus, Sprint and T-Mobile often stood against AT&T and Verizon on a variety of regulatory issues so if AT&T succeeds, Sprint will stand alone on special access and other issues.

Network Equipment Suppliers: The carrier consolidation has proved to be a living hell for companies that make infrastructure network equipment. Alcatel-Lucent along with Ericsson and Nokia Siemens are suppliers of gears to both AT&T and T-Mobile USA. With a single customer, they have lost ability to control their own fate and are going to see their profits suffer as a result.

Google: I think the biggest loser in this could be Google. In T-Mobile it has a great partner for its Android OS-based devices. Now the company will be beholden to two massive phone companies – Verizon and AT&T who are going to try and hijack Android to serve their own ends.

Don’t be surprised if you see AT&T impose its own will on what apps and service are put on its Android smartphones. I wouldn’t be surprised that the worst phone company in the US (according to Consumer Reports) tries to recreate an app store and force everyone to buy apps through that app-store.

It doesn’t matter how you look at it, this is just bad for wireless innovation, which means bad news for consumers. T-Mobile has been pretty experimental and innovative – it has experiment with newer technologies such as UMA, built its own handsets and has generally been a more consumer centric company. AT&T on the other hand has innovation of a lead pencil and has the mentality more suited to a monopoly – a position it wants to regain.

[90GT50]

^All of that, fucking sucks.

[SMKR]

[helosailor]

^All of that, fucking sucks.

Yep!

Hopefully the FTC will have a rare moment of genuine clarity and put the kibosh on the deal. I seriously doubt it though. AT&T has far too much sway with them.

[Cooter]

suck

[01svtboy]

damn.. there goes unlimited data.. damn you at&t

[90GT50]

damn.. there goes unlimited data.. damn you at&t

I still have AT&T and unlimited data... I better go cancel my tmobile line now before it hits 14 days, lol.

[Cooter]

damn.. there goes unlimited data.. damn you at&t

grandfathered FTW

[Blue88Coupe]

The lull of my lazy, rainy weekend was broken by the news that AT&T plans to acquire T-Mobile USA for a whopping $39 billion in cash and stock. The question is who wins and who loses in this deal. It is hard to find winners apart from AT&T and T-Mobile shareholders. Here is who loses according to me in this deal:

Consumers: The biggest losers of this deal are going to be the consumers. While AT&T and T-Mobile are going to try to spin it as a good deal to combine wireless spectrum assets, the fact is that T-Mobile USA is now out of the market.

T-Mobile USA has been fairly aggressive in offering cheaper voice and data plans as it has tried to compete with its larger brethren. The competition has kept the prices in the market low enough. This has worked well for U.S. consumers. With the merger of AT&T & T-Mobile, the market is now reduced to three national players – AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. Net-net U.S. consumers are going to lose.

Phone Handset Makers: Before the merger was announced, the handset makers such as HTC and Motorola had two major carriers who could buy their GSM-based phones. They just lost any ability to control price and profits on handsets because now there is a single buyer that can dictate what GSM phones come to market. Even with LTE become the standard for the 4G world, it would essentially be a market dominated by three buyers (should Sprint go with LTE), which would place handset makers at the mercy of the giants.

Sprint: The nation’s third-largest carrier was in talks to buy T-Mobile according to Bloomberg, but AT&T’s offer has now pushed Sprint to the bottom of the pile in terms of size and potentially spectrum assets if it goes through. If it doesn’t go through then Sprint now has a price it has to match in order to get its hands on T-Mobile. Plus, Sprint and T-Mobile often stood against AT&T and Verizon on a variety of regulatory issues so if AT&T succeeds, Sprint will stand alone on special access and other issues.

Network Equipment Suppliers: The carrier consolidation has proved to be a living hell for companies that make infrastructure network equipment. Alcatel-Lucent along with Ericsson and Nokia Siemens are suppliers of gears to both AT&T and T-Mobile USA. With a single customer, they have lost ability to control their own fate and are going to see their profits suffer as a result.

Google: I think the biggest loser in this could be Google. In T-Mobile it has a great partner for its Android OS-based devices. Now the company will be beholden to two massive phone companies – Verizon and AT&T who are going to try and hijack Android to serve their own ends.

Don’t be surprised if you see AT&T impose its own will on what apps and service are put on its Android smartphones. I wouldn’t be surprised that the worst phone company in the US (according to Consumer Reports) tries to recreate an app store and force everyone to buy apps through that app-store.

It doesn’t matter how you look at it, this is just bad for wireless innovation, which means bad news for consumers. T-Mobile has been pretty experimental and innovative – it has experiment with newer technologies such as UMA, built its own handsets and has generally been a more consumer centric company. AT&T on the other hand has innovation of a lead pencil and has the mentality more suited to a monopoly – a position it wants to regain.

yes but what about the employees.

[90GT50]

grandfathered FTW

He'll probably be grandfathered in when the merger actually happens.


Here's some more info on everything:

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/t-mobile-posts-question-answer-on-att-acquisition/

[Barbie]

grandfathered FTW

Yep. Nothing will change unless you change it. I had ATT pre cingular and kept my plan the same through the entire Cingular era and all the way until well after they went back to ATT. I finally changed over when iPhone 3G came out

[90GT50]

yes but what about the employees.

Fuck if I know. Just got an email saying this will take about 12 months, and that AT&T is still considered a competitor. Sooo....

[helosailor]

He'll probably be grandfathered in when the merger actually happens.


Here's some more info on everything:

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/t-mob...t-acquisition/

LOL at the last FAQ item. Once your contract expires, we will provide you with a nearly empty tube of astro-glide before you sign up for one of the "new" plans.

[Lason]

yes but what about the employees.

They are union, fuck 'em