Is the American government behind these earthquakes?

[idrivea4banger]

I found my tin foil hat. Carry on.

[Dave586]

I don't think the technology exists to create earthquakes..I just think the earth is going through it's motions. We for the last 6,000 years or so are the first known advanced civiliazation to live on this rock and we (in the past 6000 years) are the first to experience things like a pole change and other great happenings. So we are the first to record such events and hopefully keep it for the next bunch of brain whizzes 6000 years from now.

Now I do believe if the Government could build a device to cause earthquakes..they would - and they wouldn't tell anyone.

I also believe if an entity or a government accidently created an earthquake or another big disaster they wouldn't tell anyone, and try to cover it up.

Just a small edit - Nikola Tesla was once quoted saying he could split the Earth in two if he wanted. The Feds made him retract the comment..but I firmly believe that the Feds, and Tesla knew himself he could do it with his research on resonance.

[Broncojohnny]

There's no money in taking out N Korea. Japan has so much more investment potential (from another crash) and we won't be the bad guy that did it. Mother nature will.

And I keep a high limit CC just for that.

Well, if such a thing were even possible, "mother nature" would be a lot more likely to go after the oil in Iran in my opinion.

[Denny]

Well, if such a thing were even possible, "mother nature" would be a lot more likely to go after the oil in Iran in my opinion.

Too direct. Why not go after one of our "allies" we secretly hate and can make a damaging impact on the market?

[Broncojohnny]

Too direct. Why not go after one of our "allies" we secretly hate and can make a damaging impact on the market?

What do you mean direct, no one knows we are doing it!

[Strychnine]

I wonder if they're running CERN lately. Those whirlpools are interesting along with the volcano in Hawaii and reports of sinkholes.

I hate that I can't tell if you're serious or joking sometimes.

[ThreeFingerPete]

So this one solitary radio base is used for "communication with submarines". We have submarines all over the world, but all we need is one base with these capabilities? Sounds fishy.

[Denny]

I hate that I can't tell if you're serious or joking sometimes.

I can't either. FML

[Nash B.]

Sounds fishy.

Things a sonar operator would say?

[mstng86]

So this one solitary radio base is used for "communication with submarines". We have submarines all over the world, but all we need is one base with these capabilities? Sounds fishy.

Sketchy even.

[Strychnine]

So this one solitary radio base is used for "communication with submarines". We have submarines all over the world, but all we need is one base with these capabilities? Sounds fishy.

Nice segue to a really cool story regarding submarine communications and DoD / DARPA funded secret research. ("Jason" is the name of the entire team of scientists, not just one person)

Christofilos was invited to Project 137, the Jason precursor. In Jason, Christofilos seems to have worked mostly alone. His solo projects had names like “Preliminary Thoughts on a Space Fleet” and were classified secret. “One of Jason’s big jobs,” one Jason said, “was trying to show that various crazy ideas of Nick Christofilos wouldn’t work.” Christofilos’ most famous Jason project was a scheme to communicate with submarines. Like the Argus shots, the scheme was at the same time highly classified and, eventually, highly public; and as a result , much was written about it, and much of what was written was vague or contradictory or partisan and in any case generally untrustworthy.. The Jason précis of the scheme tends to fun along the line of Jack Ruina’s: “I forgot what it was called, his super-low frequency – he was going to set aside the whole state of Wisconsin and Minnesota and maybe half of Canada to be an antenna.”

Some facts are ascertainable. The first name for the scheme was Bassoon. Christofilos first proposed it in 1958 during Project 137, just before the first Argus shots. The submarines were most likely the ones carrying nuclear missiles; communicating with them was difficult because the radio frequencies normally used to communicate over distances fade out, or attenuate, under water, and these particular submarines prefer the deep ocean. The problem would be solved if the submarines regularly came to the surface, but then they’ be obvious targets. Christofilos’ idea was to use radio frequencies so low they weren’t even VLF, very low frequencies, but ELF, extremely low frequencies. The lower the frequency, the less water attenuates it.

Christofilos’ exact proposal is hard to come by: the Project 137 report was declassified after twelve years, but its eighteen pages describing Bassoon are still unavailable. Two years after Project 137, however, Christofilos wrote another report, declassified in 1972; by now Bassoon was called Sanguine. The report proposed a frequency of 25 hertz: extremely low frequencies mean extremely long wavelengths, and 25 hertz corresponds to a wavelength of 7.400 miles. The longer the wavelength, the longer the antenna needed to transmit it; at a cell phone’s frequency of a billion hertz or wavelength of ten inches, its antenna need only be a few inches long; at Sanguine’s 7,400 mile wavelength, its antenna would be 8,500 miles long. The antenna was to be a loop, each end of which would be buried in the earth: a current traveling along the antenna to one end would run deep into the earth, then back up through the other end. The loop in turn would broadcast that signal with its thousands-of-miles-long wavelength. The ELF signal would bounce between and be guided by the conducting rock in the depths of the earth and the conducting part of the atmosphere called the ionosphere – the idea originally of another immoderate inventor, Nicola Tesla. The ELF signal goes right around the earth and hundreds of feet into the ocean. Besides nonattenuation, ELD signals have two other relevant characteristics: they have the virtue of being unlikely to be disrupted by Argus-like nuclear explosions in the atmosphere; and they carry little information. Christofilos said this sytem would transmit six words per minute. He figured it would cost $138 million. Such an uninformative one-way signal is essentially a beeper; Jasons called it a “bell ringer.” “The signals would be only of emergency-type signals, like ‘Go to hell.’” said Ruina. Or, said a Jason, “’My God, we’ve an atomic attack. Go and mutually assure destruction.’”

Christofilos wrote around eight reports on Bassoon/Sanguine. They were all classified confidential or secret. He seems to have worked alone on them; the reports list no other authors. The Jasons nevertheless all know about this project – it’s one of the few they mention without being asked – though they are vague on the details, either because they don’t know them or because they don’t remember which are classified. Murph said that Bassoon/Sanguine was “one of the most important things that comes out of Project 137” and the only thing with any “real application.” So it was definitely built, right? “There were certainly wires laid,” Murph said, “but I don’t want to talk more about it.” But it was built? “It was built,” he said. Was it used? “I can’t answer that,” he said.

[Sean88gt]

I think they could figure it out, but execution is a totally different ball game.

[ThreeFingerPete]

I think they could figure it out, but execution is a totally different ball game.

Just because our government is a collective bunch of greedy fucks doesn't mean that scientists with nothing but time and money can't accomplish fantastic things.

Edison... Tesla... Einstein... Smart fuckers get shit done.

[Trip McNeely]

HADRON Collider!

[slow99]

So, who was causing all the earthquakes before the US government?