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  • Labora
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    Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
    Only problem with that is, the rats all lived in cities. They didn't have access to large "rural" areas. They would've spread out naturally if they could, and as such the rat utopia never would've happened.

    So wouldn't those experiments just show whats going to happen to cities? Or has already happened.
    In the study they had plenty of space with many rat rooms not being used from what I recall also showed that when they had access to unlimited food and safe shelter they lose want to breed and also became socially withdrawn.

    Now we'd like to hope we are more socially advanced than rats, but who knows. I think it is safe to say social media has caused a certain amount of social withdraw especially with the pandemic, and we are certainly living easier lives than any other generation before us. So a drop off of population should be expected other countries are already seeing it more than us.
    Last edited by Labora; 10-28-2021, 09:19 AM.

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  • Gasser64
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    Originally posted by Labora View Post
    On a related note check out the Calhoun experiments on rats, if they are anything to go off of we are in the late stage of the population growth.
    Only problem with that is, the rats all lived in cities. They didn't have access to large "rural" areas. They would've spread out naturally if they could, and as such the rat utopia never would've happened.

    So wouldn't those experiments just show whats going to happen to cities? Or has already happened.

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  • Labora
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    On a related note check out the Calhoun experiments on rats, if they are anything to go off of we are in the late stage of the population growth.

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  • Gasser64
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    It’s more political than scientific and it’s being pushed hard by the very people whose goal is to decrease the human population.
    Here's a couple of researchers saying we're actually headed down to the population levels of the early 1800's. Eventually. I believe it's later in this century, around 2080. They said we're not even going much higher than we are now, and then it's going to slowly slide back down. This is because when people's lifestyle gets better, they almost always have less or no kids. They go even further to say that the population isn't even what the UN says it is, that we're actually a lot lower. So we might not really be at 7 billion people. They have money motivations for claiming that number.



    Makes sense. Some of the Mexicans' kids that worked for my relatives didn't want any kids of their own. I'd hear them telling their parents they didn't want any and the parents would say something like "You just wanna be a bum?" And the kids would say "No I don't wanna be poor" or "I wanna live my own life they're too much responsibility" or something like that.

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  • 94mstng94
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    My thoughts on this vaccine…

    I am not anti vaccine…I don’t believe that healthy adults need vaccines against very low mortality viruses, but I do believe that many of the childhood vaccines are beneficial. My kids received all of those as did I.

    But this vaccine is different. It’s more political than scientific and it’s being pushed hard by the very people whose goal is to decrease the human population. The fact that they are now pushing it (a leaky vaccine that does not prevent transmission and is less robust than natural immunity) on kids (whose risk of death is near zero) leads one to believe that there are definitely ulterior motives in play. Altruism and government are mutually exclusive.

    IMO, the only people that should get vaccinated are the old, the obese and chronically ill people…and the scared.
    Do healthy people get sick and die from Covid? Yes, but it’s a very very low percentage.

    Life is about mitigating risks. It should be YOUR decision on how to mitigate said risks…not the government’s.

    Do not believe everything the for-profit bureaucracy known as the CDC states. They are just as corrupt as other government institutions.

    Solid.


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  • bubbaearl
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    my doc told me he wanted me to take it so i could survive it not that i would not get it . and it seemed to work .

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  • quikag
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    my thoughts on this vaccine…

    i am not anti vaccine…i don’t believe that healthy adults need vaccines against very low mortality viruses, but i do believe that many of the childhood vaccines are beneficial. My kids received all of those as did i.

    But this vaccine is different. It’s more political than scientific and it’s being pushed hard by the very people whose goal is to decrease the human population. The fact that they are now pushing it (a leaky vaccine that does not prevent transmission and is less robust than natural immunity) on kids (whose risk of death is near zero) leads one to believe that there are definitely ulterior motives in play. Altruism and government are mutually exclusive.

    Imo, the only people that should get vaccinated are the old, the obese and chronically ill people…and the scared.
    Do healthy people get sick and die from covid? Yes, but it’s a very very low percentage.

    Life is about mitigating risks. It should be your decision on how to mitigate said risks…not the government’s.

    Do not believe everything the for-profit bureaucracy known as the cdc states. They are just as corrupt as other government institutions.
    well spoken! Amen!

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  • bird_dog0347
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    My thoughts on this vaccine…

    I am not anti vaccine…I don’t believe that healthy adults need vaccines against very low mortality viruses, but I do believe that many of the childhood vaccines are beneficial. My kids received all of those as did I.

    But this vaccine is different. It’s more political than scientific and it’s being pushed hard by the very people whose goal is to decrease the human population. The fact that they are now pushing it (a leaky vaccine that does not prevent transmission and is less robust than natural immunity) on kids (whose risk of death is near zero) leads one to believe that there are definitely ulterior motives in play. Altruism and government are mutually exclusive.

    IMO, the only people that should get vaccinated are the old, the obese and chronically ill people…and the scared.
    Do healthy people get sick and die from Covid? Yes, but it’s a very very low percentage.

    Life is about mitigating risks. It should be YOUR decision on how to mitigate said risks…not the government’s.

    Do not believe everything the for-profit bureaucracy known as the CDC states. They are just as corrupt as other government institutions.
    Exactly how I've felt about this since they came out with the Vaccines. The numbers are not in alignment with the panic and response level.

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  • davbrucas
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    My thoughts on this vaccine…

    I am not anti vaccine…I don’t believe that healthy adults need vaccines against very low mortality viruses, but I do believe that many of the childhood vaccines are beneficial. My kids received all of those as did I.

    But this vaccine is different. It’s more political than scientific and it’s being pushed hard by the very people whose goal is to decrease the human population. The fact that they are now pushing it (a leaky vaccine that does not prevent transmission and is less robust than natural immunity) on kids (whose risk of death is near zero) leads one to believe that there are definitely ulterior motives in play. Altruism and government are mutually exclusive.

    IMO, the only people that should get vaccinated are the old, the obese and chronically ill people…and the scared.
    Do healthy people get sick and die from Covid? Yes, but it’s a very very low percentage.

    Life is about mitigating risks. It should be YOUR decision on how to mitigate said risks…not the government’s.

    Do not believe everything the for-profit bureaucracy known as the CDC states. They are just as corrupt as other government institutions.

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  • Gasser64
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    Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
    Makes me glad I have my own small business. One thing I wonder if individuals will start creating LLCs and contracting to businesses. I came from the oil and gas industry and they had so many contractors within the business as “consultants.”
    Throwing my comment in now. This is when the chill people are in here, and I’ll be honest, I’m terrified that this’ll be the shitpost to summon the Wildebeest again.

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  • kingjason
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    Originally posted by scootro View Post
    you'll get a few false positives too
    Originally posted by 68RR View Post
    Thats why you do the blood test.
    If I wasn't clear, it was a blood test.

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  • 68RR
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    Originally posted by scootro View Post
    you'll get a few false positives too

    Thats why you do the blood test.

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  • scootro
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    Originally posted by kingjason View Post
    They are running some kind of deal to get tested for free and then go back and get tested again. I registered a .4 antibodies and .8 would have been absolute positive. When I had the weird sweats two years ago I think I had it, and now the anti bodies have just trimmed back.
    you'll get a few false positives too

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  • kingjason
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    They are running some kind of deal to get tested for free and then go back and get tested again. I registered a .4 antibodies and .8 would have been absolute positive. When I had the weird sweats two years ago I think I had it, and now the anti bodies have just trimmed back.

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  • The King
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    I might very well do that. There’s a CVS MinuteClinic near where we live that offers those. It’s now been a little over 8 months since getting the Moderna vaccine 2nd dose.

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