Info regarding this outbreak.

[kingjason]

My mother, my in laws, and their two friends are like "whatever". All in their 70's and actually in good health. The sad thing is the in laws have a summer home in Michigan that is in a fairly isolated little community. If I was them I would probably stay down here though, better medical. Plus that community up there is all old folk probably fresh off a cruise somewhere.

[Big A]

Question, again with no offense intended, but why is this millennial still in your house instead of doing things the old-fashioned way and making her own way in the world?

My bad, Gen Z, she graduates HS this year.

[Ruffdaddy]

The millenial in my house is bitching and moaning about stores being closed, and her life being disrupted, with zero empathy for the situation. You are all about the data, so realize that you speak for yourself, not two entire generations.

Conversely my folks are gladly isolating, with a light heart, and dad's bad jokes.

You do understand that I provided data detailing exactly why the old folks are crushing Italy right?

All of the other comments are in direct support of my point that the younger generation is not the main problem here.

[The King]

The millenial in my house is bitching and moaning about stores being closed, and her life being disrupted, with zero empathy for the situation. You are all about the data, so realize that you speak for yourself, not two entire generations.

Conversely my folks are gladly isolating, with a light heart, and dad's bad jokes.

Question, again with no offense intended, but why is this millennial still in your house instead of doing things the old-fashioned way and making her own way in the world?

[Big A]

This is not a new or recent mentality. My entire team of mostly millenials and gen Zers is being responsible and self isolating. Half of the old folks I know are being selfish pricks.

The millenial in my house is bitching and moaning about stores being closed, and her life being disrupted, with zero empathy for the situation. You are all about the data, so realize that you speak for yourself, not two entire generations.

Conversely my folks are gladly isolating, with a light heart, and dad's bad jokes.

[Ruffdaddy]

This is not a new or recent mentality. My entire team of mostly millenials and gen Zers is being responsible and self isolating. Half of the old folks I know are being selfish pricks.

[black2002ls]

Read the data and you'll see the biggest problem in Italy is old folks swamping hospitals.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/south-korea-italy-coronavirus-survivability-sepkowitz/index.html

It sucks, but they are the ones that need to be locked down

I've been following it all pretty closely. I expect, at some point, for us to have similar issues here. I just feel that it is going to be compounded by a mentality that has bred in our country, over the last decade or two, where people have taken the " fuck you guys I'm doing what I want because it is my time, I have earned this, I deserve this" etc. No regard for the repercussions or how it affects those around them.

[Ruffdaddy]

I follow now. Wasn't so much referring to the overload on the healthcare system so much as I was the spread and potential for exponential growth of infected population.

Read the data and you'll see the biggest problem in Italy is old folks swamping hospitals.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/south-korea-italy-coronavirus-survivability-sepkowitz/index.html

It sucks, but they are the ones that need to be locked down

[black2002ls]

Sorry there are only portions of your post I disagreed with and that's the comment about people with iron clad immune systems.

The high risk people are the ones I've seen that pose the biggest risk to overloading an ER as italy has proven.

I follow now. Wasn't so much referring to the overload on the healthcare system so much as I was the spread and potential for exponential growth of infected population.

[Ruffdaddy]

I'm not sure I follow. That seems to coincide with what I said. I wasn't making a statement pointed at a particular generation of the population. Hell there are plenty of people in every generation that take them, I'm going to do what I want mindset, fuck the rules or what is best for those around me.

Sorry there are only portions of your post I disagreed with and that's the comment about people with iron clad immune systems.

The high risk people are the ones I've seen that pose the biggest risk to overloading an ER as italy has proven.

[black2002ls]

I disagree...and I had thought the same as you until this week.

My grandfather sent out an email complaining that his rural county is still allowing people to commute for their jobs into the metroplex. He was worried this was likely to spread to kids and then they would get sick when hanging out with grandkids. I told him that the CDC recommends self isolation for high risk people in the mean time. His response was that they didnt want to stop seeing their grand kids because that's inconvenient.

This selfish piece of shit would rather people go bankrupt than his retired 90 year old high risk ass have to change any of his behaviors. He literally wanted the county to lock down travel for all the healthy people but was unwilling to do anything to help himself.

Even my in laws have been going out like everything is normal and they're in their 60s.

I'm not sure I follow. That seems to coincide with what I said. I wasn't making a statement pointed at a particular generation of the population. Hell there are plenty of people in every generation that take them, I'm going to do what I want mindset, fuck the rules or what is best for those around me.

Edited to add:

I'm not really referencing the, I'm going to and from work whether they like it or not. Or I have to go to work, etc. I'm referencing the people who are not willing to make personal sacrifices at the detriment of their social life. People who don't realize that the more they are around "other" people, the greater the chance that they get the virus, or spread the virus. By "other" people, I mean people outside of your normal circle. It would be a safe assumption that you would be familiar enough with people inside of your normal circle to know whether they are going to take unnecessary risks. Thus minimizing the (your) potential for exposure.

[Ruffdaddy]

The biggest problem is going to be the, "I'm living for me and fuck all y'all crowd". They fail to realize, that even if they have an iron clad immune system, they can still transmit the virus to other people. My wife's place of work has a couple of these types, one of which went to Austin this past weekend and attended several parties and is now at home showing signs of upper respiratory issues.

I disagree...and I had thought the same as you until this week.

My grandfather sent out an email complaining that his rural county is still allowing people to commute for their jobs into the metroplex. He was worried this was likely to spread to kids and then they would get sick when hanging out with grandkids. I told him that the CDC recommends self isolation for high risk people in the mean time. His response was that they didnt want to stop seeing their grand kids because that's inconvenient.

This selfish piece of shit would rather people go bankrupt than his retired 90 year old high risk ass have to change any of his behaviors. He literally wanted the county to lock down travel for all the healthy people but was unwilling to do anything to help himself.

Even my in laws have been going out like everything is normal and they're in their 60s.

[black2002ls]

The biggest problem is going to be the, "I'm living for me and fuck all y'all crowd". They fail to realize, that even if they have an iron clad immune system, they can still transmit the virus to other people. My wife's place of work has a couple of these types, one of which went to Austin this past weekend and attended several parties and is now at home showing signs of upper respiratory issues.

[Big A]

yeah man, i was just adding on to your statement not trying to contradict it.

I'd like to hope that we fare better, but the spring breakers aren't building a solid case for us lol

Perhaps their alcohol consumption with help counter that larger gathering? heh

I do see it as unfortunate that the media isn't coming at it from this direction, the majority of the mass hysteria and hoarding is directly related to their end-of-days bias. At some point the media does need to become culpable for things like this. There is a huge difference in Kronkite reporting the factual numbers back in the day, and the likes of CNN telling the world to kiss their loved ones good-bye (I do realize that this is an over-dramatization, just like the media is doing).

[lowthreeohz]

I totally get that, but even "weeks" is better than total uncertainty, and with the lock downs happening, hopefully we fare better than the preceding countries.

yeah man, i was just adding on to your statement not trying to contradict it.

I'd like to hope that we fare better, but the spring breakers aren't building a solid case for us lol