Church shooting - White Settlement

[John -- '02 HAWK]

The anti gun activists will say that if we had stricter gun laws that this whole situation could have been avoided

Perp was arrested in New Jersey for gun crimes so they better try harder

[DON SVO]

Dude had a shotgun. The media harps on assault weapons. Even the ugly gun-grab states seem to leave shotguns alone. Radio silence...? Oh there’s tons of it. Those fucking cocksuckers don’t know what to think.

[Broncojohnny]

Dude had a shotgun. The media harps on assault weapons. Even the ugly gun-grab states seem to leave shotguns alone. Radio silence...? Oh there’s tons of it. Those fucking cocksuckers don’t know what to think.

I'm surprised that there was any coverage of the story at all in the national media. It is probably because the shooter was white.

[1carcrazyguy]

I think the shooter asked the guy....”is there an armed guard here”..... he then points towards the first victim and immediately the gunman points the shot gun in the same direction. The first victim lost the element of surprise when he got his gun tangled. Hind sight is always better but I wish the first victim would have taken a bit of cover before going for his weapon. I think the gunman was trying to take out the security, in hopes of being unchallenged after that.

[CexMashean]

[John -- '02 HAWK]

I think the shooter asked the guy....”is there an armed guard here”..... he then points towards the first victim and immediately the gunman points the shot gun in the same direction. The first victim lost the element of surprise when he got his gun tangled. Hind sight is always better but I wish the first victim would have taken a bit of cover before going for his weapon. I think the gunman was trying to take out the security, in hopes of being unchallenged after that.

I heard he asked for money and when the victim said no the perp pulled the shotgun. That's when the first security fumbled with his small of the back draw and the perp responded by shooting him and then the original guy.

[GhostTX]

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/churchs-head-of-security-says-he-killed-an-evil-not-a-human-in-taking-down-gunman/2283824/

[4bangen]

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/ch...unman/2283824/

That dude is a bad mother f-er. I have a feeling he's seen some shit in his day.

[Gasser64]

I heard he asked for money and when the victim said no the perp pulled the shotgun. That's when the first security fumbled with his small of the back draw and the perp responded by shooting him and then the original guy.

What would have been the correct action? In hindsight. Maybe give him the money, and draw on him while he's handling it? Putting it in his pocket and whatnot.

[krazy kris]

[ram57ta]

[Big A]

Y'all will get a kick outta this:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/opinions/white-settlement-texas-church-shooting-moore/index.html

[John -- '02 HAWK]

What would have been the correct action? In hindsight. Maybe give him the money, and draw on him while he's handling it? Putting it in his pocket and whatnot.

correct action would be to get the perp away from the congregation. use misdirection 'my wallets in the break room lets go get it' 'Theres coffee and donuts in the break room you hungry'

Since he was wearing a fake beard, a wig, sunglasses and long jacket and acting erratically. They should have called the cops, since the police have body armor(hind sight) and the training/exposure to such weird situations.

Security put their guard down, and became compliant. The member/guard that got shot first wasn't a target. He should have unholstered his weapon and kept it concealed then sat behind or on the side of the perp so he could be shadowed. The guy with the better shot should have moved over so he had less civilians in the engagement zone

Always practice drawing the weapon from concealment. the first guy had his weapon in a place that he couldn't draw fast enough from. He wasn't familiar with drawing from that the small of the back with a jacket and shirt covering the weapon. That made him a hostile and the first target. If he would have moved to concealment then pulled his weapon that would have changed how this played out

[Ruffdaddy]

correct action would be to get the perp away from the congregation. use misdirection 'my wallets in the break room lets go get it' 'Theres coffee and donuts in the break room you hungry'

Since he was wearing a fake beard, a wig, sunglasses and long jacket and acting erratically. They should have called the cops, since the police have body armor(hind sight) and the training/exposure to such weird situations.

Security put their guard down, and became compliant. The member/guard that got shot first wasn't a target. He should have unholstered his weapon and kept it concealed then sat behind or on the side of the perp so he could be shadowed. The guy with the better shot should have moved over so he had less civilians in the engagement zone

Always practice drawing the weapon from concealment. the first guy had his weapon in a place that he couldn't draw fast enough from. He wasn't familiar with drawing from that the small of the back with a jacket and shirt covering the weapon. That made him a hostile and the first target. If he would have moved to concealment then pulled his weapon that would have changed how this played out

This is an alternate universe for sure.

Apparently you havent seen the UPS vs Church Hero meme...it brings up a good point.

[BradM]

Y'all will get a kick outta this:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/30/opini...ore/index.html

I think it's nice that CNN hires retarded kids.