Parent Co of SCT/Bully Dog fined

[Treybiz]

I still want to see that wood dumbbell rack.

thumbs up.

[Strychnine]

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa...defeat-devices

IMO, its just a political statement to counter the asshole coal-rollers, et al
Post-2013 on-highway diesels are putting out 98% less NOx and PM than they were 20 yrs ago (10.7 g/bhp-hr down to 0.02 g/bhp-hr for NOx if I remember right). They're damn clean.
There are over 7 million diesel cars on the road in the US, and probably 2 million commercial diesels. 363,000 units have been sold by Derive (Derive formed in 2014, so lawsuit probably covers 4 yrs). Drop in the bucket.

[Ruffdaddy]

Why would it break your shit "eventually" ?

What breaks and who's saying this?

I'm not sure if you're giving him a hard time or genuinely asking...but typically parts are designed for a specific life with a specific operational profile in mind that is largely constrained by factory power and torque output settings.

A 20-30% increase in torque may have a huge impact dpending on where in the fatigue curve the part lies and what the material is.

So while a tune alone may not do too much, frequently using the additional output that the tune gives you could. It really depends on the extent of the tune, frequency of usage and design margin in the vehicle.

[DON SVO]

IMO, its just a political statement to counter the asshole coal-rollers, et al
Post-2013 on-highway diesels are putting out 98% less NOx and PM than they were 20 yrs ago (10.7 g/bhp-hr down to 0.02 g/bhp-hr for NOx if I remember right). They're damn clean.
There are over 7 million diesel cars on the road in the US, and probably 2 million commercial diesels. 363,000 units have been sold by Derive (Derive formed in 2014, so lawsuit probably covers 4 yrs). Drop in the bucket.

You know them hoes ain’t paying retail on that fine.

[Trip McNeely]

Don't worry, svo already has a prototype for the EPA work-around of the original deceptive program and is gonna pay the fine in cash.

[Chili]

I'm not sure if you're giving him a hard time or genuinely asking...but typically parts are designed for a specific life with a specific operational profile in mind that is largely constrained by factory power and torque output settings.

A 20-30% increase in torque may have a huge impact dpending on where in the fatigue curve the part lies and what the material is.

So while a tune alone may not do too much, frequently using the additional output that the tune gives you could. It really depends on the extent of the tune, frequency of usage and design margin in the vehicle.

Good points. Because the context of this was in reference to deleting and / or disabling of the emissions control equipment, and not necessarily tuning for more HP / Torque, I took Gassers comment as specific to that (and assume Strychnine did as well).

[Ruffdaddy]

Good points. Because the context of this was in reference to deleting and / or disabling of the emissions control equipment, and not necessarily tuning for more HP / Torque, I took Gassers comment as specific to that (and assume Strychnine did as well).

Oh I dont doubt gasser wasnt sure of what he was talking about...and just going on what he heard. But I also dont know enough to know if theres a reason to defeat emissions controls without attempting to gain tq/hp. Is there a mileage gain or something?

[Nash B.]

Oh I dont doubt gasser wasnt sure of what he was talking about...and just going on what he heard. But I also dont know enough to know if theres a reason to defeat emissions controls without attempting to gain tq/hp. Is there a mileage gain or something?

On the 6.0L Powerstrokes, the EGR cooler is a big point of failure; removing it and disabling the EGR makes the truck a lot more reliable.

[mikeb]

In the old days companies got around the EPA regs by selling things that defeated emissions stuff for "off road" purposes only, like the catalytic converter "test pipes".

It seems like they could sell their stuff for off road purposes only and get the EPA off of their ass?

[BP]

On the 6.0L Powerstrokes, the EGR cooler is a big point of failure; removing it and disabling the EGR makes the truck a lot more reliable.

Catalytic converters have been a major point of failure on many Nissan and GM engines, removing and disabling them makes them more reliable and less prone to burning to the ground.

[034V]

I make every customer fill out a tune authorization form before tuning their vehicle. Always have.. I don't sell SCT stuff to California addresses either.

If someone is buying a tune file for a SCT device from me, I still verify address.

Hope that's good enough to keep me an authorized reseller. We'll see.

[Gasser64]

I still want to see that wood dumbbell rack.

Do a search. Get with the times.

[cool cat]

Do a search. Get with the times.

Just did, here is what I found...

[fastwhite99gt]

Wonder how it’s going to affect the Pro Racer software? Are they gonna limit our access to tables? What if we just never update?

[034V]

Wonder how it’s going to affect the Pro Racer software? Are they gonna limit our access to tables? What if we just never update?

Do you have unlimited tune count?