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  • When a family member gets sick

    In this case , his wife ..

    How many days off would be normal to allow them off to assist and if they then are not able to get well again, and pass away normal time to allow them to grieve and not return ?

    whats right and fair ?

    sad deal

  • #2
    I'm thinking twelve weeks allowance to care for a family member is pretty much mandatory under FMLA policy, with bereavement leave granted outside of that according to whatever the company's own policy is.

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    • #3
      State Farm let a friend of mine take 90 days off with pay when his wife passed. That's definitely the exception though. Legally you have the FMLA act to comply with so most employers will let you burn through all of your PTO and maybe cover 3 more days for bereavement.

      Really though for many people going back to work helps with the grieving process. Knowing an employer has your back is a great thing though.

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      • #4
        Normal and right are two different things. A lot of companies these days don't treat employees right under normal circumstances much less extenuating. Normal is whatever fmla mandates. The right thing would be his direct manager taking the initiative to maintain contact and ask how he is doing and maybe stopping by after the funeral to let him know he will work with him with time off to take care of things.

        For instance, at my company this year a coworker's 3 month old grandson died of SIDS. She got 3 days bereavement and not even a card or a phone call from her side of the story. I have seen shit handled way better by companies before, but unfortunately most of us are just a number these days.
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        • #5
          For the sick part, hell if I know - but for the passing part I'd think somewhere around 2 weeks. Just remember that person is going to be dealing with emotional and paperwork type issues for months.
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          • #6
            "FMLA Leave

            If additional time off is required for the employee to address matters such as grief counseling or health-related issues following the death of a family member, the employee may be eligible to apply for leave under the Family and Medical Leave Act. In this case, the FMLA guidelines apply and the employee may take up to 12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave. The company is obligated to maintain the employee's group health coverage benefits during approved FMLA leave."

            Of course, in some cases as mentioned above the employee can still receive salary.

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            • #7
              I doubt they will ok 3 months pay for him being gone , been out almost a month so far ..

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              • #8
                It doesn't have to be paid leave, but they do have to allow unpaid leave if need be to care for a family member as defined under the FMLA and not terminate his employment with the company.
                Last edited by The King; 10-30-2017, 05:48 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Big Dad View Post
                  I doubt they will ok 3 months pay for him being gone , been out almost a month so far ..
                  They don't have to pay him anything. FMLA just provides job security for 12 weeks and the employer has to maintain their insurance policy. I think the instances of people getting paid is a courtesy.

                  In all honesty, I might spend 2 weeks in mourning and then want to get back to work to distract myself from the grief. I don't know why anyone would want to spend 3 months hanging around the house wallowing in misery. Just my opinion.

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                  • #10
                    This particular person , I fully expect him to be gone the maximum

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                    • #11
                      Dad was out with my mom earlier this year, he burned a mix of FMLA and PTO. When she passed we were given 3 days by the company and used a little more PTO to make it a week. I was able to maintain my PTO due to me being at the hospital overnight and working during the day and dad would be there for the day shift.

                      When he used FMLA he did not get paid, that's why he mixed it in with PTO. Mom was on LTD already so they had her income until she passed.

                      We all three work for same company BTW.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Grimpala View Post
                        Dad was out with my mom earlier this year, he burned a mix of FMLA and PTO. When she passed we were given 3 days by the company and used a little more PTO to make it a week. I was able to maintain my PTO due to me being at the hospital overnight and working during the day and dad would be there for the day shift.

                        When he used FMLA he did not get paid, that's why he mixed it in with PTO. Mom was on LTD already so they had her income until she passed.

                        We all three work for same company BTW.
                        Sorry to hear about your mom

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Big Dad View Post
                          This particular person , I fully expect him to be gone the maximum
                          You got some bad blood with this person or something?

                          Spill the beans!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BP View Post
                            State Farm let a friend of mine take 90 days off with pay when his wife passed. That's definitely the exception though. Legally you have the FMLA act to comply with so most employers will let you burn through all of your PTO and maybe cover 3 more days for bereavement.

                            Really though for many people going back to work helps with the grieving process. Knowing an employer has your back is a great thing though.
                            SF isn't the norm, and it also depends on when this was. When I was there, I could max out at 90 days of PTO, which I did.

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                            • #15
                              large aircraft manufacturer west side 40 hour max per year

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