Woman calls police for noise, they kill her.

[46Tbird]

This woman survived the worlds most dangerous snakes, spiders, jellyfish, and sharks only to be gunned down in the streets by a Minneapolis Muslim.

Says a lot, doesn't it...

[kingjason]

Jason, isn't a police officer essentially always on duty if needed? If so it's virtually impossible to separate the job from the individual, not that it needs to be by any means.

<<<<< completely respects police officers and the job they do.

Maybe, sort of, kind of. Depends on jurisdiction and the level of the charge. We generally always carry and will act but sometimes you can make a good witness.

I have some friends that want to talk about the job 24/7. I am like hey lets go ride, build something, play golf, whatever. I enjoy it most days but have considered getting out several times.

Unlike Daves buddies, I am quick to call a fuck up a fuck up. Hell I get it, I wasn't always an innocent child. Those are the hardest to train, the people that have never gotten into any trouble in their lives, never gotten in a fight. Wanna throw the book at everyone for stupid shit. I'm like, nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I have probably done worse in my youth. A guy was talking about writing all the people popping fireworks on the 4th. I called him a communist.

[kingjason]

The rookie has started talking. He was the driver and is reporting to have heard a "loud noise."

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/19/loud-sound-prompt-fatal-police-shooting-minneapolis/?utm_source=hadaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

Investigators working on the Minneapolis police shooting released the first details of their probe late yesterday, but those will create more questions than answers. The state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which now has jurisdiction over the case, reports that one of the two officers involved heard a loud noise just before Justine Damond approached the driver’s side of the police vehicle. That apparently prompted the officer to shoot, although that explanation is somewhat murky for another reason:

Investigators probing the death of an Australian woman who was fatally shot by Minneapolis police officers over the weekend said Tuesday that the officers were “startled by a loud sound” near their patrol car right before the shooting.

The two officers were driving through an alley near the home of Justine Damond, 40, after she called 911 late Saturday to report a possible assault, according to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA), the state agency investigating the shooting. The officer who was driving the patrol car told investigators that right after the loud noise, Damond approached the car on his side. The officer who was in the passenger seat then fatally shot Damond through the driver’s side window, according to investigators.

The information released Tuesday marked the first account from one of the officers about what happened at 11:30 p.m. on Saturday in the upscale Minneapolis neighborhood, and it came as relatives of Damond have sharply criticized law enforcement officials for not revealing more about the shooting.
That explanation came from Officer Matthew Harrity, the first-year patrol officer who drove the car Saturday night. BCA investigators still don’t know why that would have prompted second-year officer Mohammed Noor to shoot Damond, who had no weapon and was still dressed in her pajamas. Noor has thus far refused to speak with investigators and lawyered up, a point which elicited some frustration from his assistant police chief and from the mayor of Minneapolis in a press conference yesterday afternoon:

In a Tuesday evening news conference, Mayor Betsy Hodges, Assistant Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, and City Council Member Linea Palmisano addressed reporters from around the world, saying they were still limited by the ongoing investigation.

“We do have more information, though it’s frustrating to have some of the picture but not all of it,” Hodges said. “We cannot compel Officer Noor to make a statement; I wish we could,” she said, quickly clarifying: “I wish that he would make a statement.” …

While Hodges expressed her desire that Noor would offer a statement on what happened that night, Arradondo said he would not cast judgment. “It is his right,” Arradondo said. “He has legal representation and I want to respect his right for that.”
Unfortunately for investigators, they have no one else to interview, at least for now. Police want to find a man on a bicycle who came and went immediately after the shooting to see if he can shed any light on what happened, but otherwise, the only witnesses are the two officers, and only one of them is talking. BCA acknowledged this yesterday in their presser, saying that they are pressing ahead on forensics:

Unless someone else comes forward, the BCA does not have additional interviews scheduled at this time. Forensic testing is being completed and all evidence must be examined. It is common for a county attorney to request follow-up information when reviewing a case.
In the case of a traumatic event, it’s advisable to refrain from being interrogated until one has time to recover their wits. In carry-permit training, this topic often comes up; one attorney’s business cards emphasize the point for those involved in a shooting. It’s too easy to misremember the sequence of events while in shock, and getting a good attorney to navigate the legal risks first is a must. As Arradondo says, Noor has the right to seek counsel before deciding whether to offer a statement to investigators, a right that does not get waived when taking a job as a peace officer. If Harrity is cooperating, that’s another good reason for Noor to take maximum legal precautions.

The updates from the BCA seem unlikely to resolve anything, though, and might complicate Noor’s defense. If the alleged “loud noise” prompted the shooting, then it will be more difficult to claim an accidental discharge later. A “loud noise” is not enough to justify the use of lethal force in self-defense, not for a civilian and certainly not for a peace officer, either. Just the fact that no weapon was found will lead to a presumption that no reasonable fear of life should have existed, and citing a “loud noise” as a defense will make it look more like panic in the absence of any other evidence to support a reasonable threat. And the fact that the loud noise occurred after getting dispatched on a possible sexual assault will raise even more questions as to why neither officer activated their body cams as they rolled up.

Noor had better hope his attorneys are up for this challenge. On the basis of what’s been learned so far, they have their work cut out for them.

Sketchy. Poor fucking driver also. I would have been like WTF you #@$#%^ ^$^$#$@$. Curious of the time frame between the load noise and her getting to the window and the speed at which she approached, demeanor, etc. Odd that is for sure. Guy may have just been a skitish cop that shouldn't have carried a gun.

[Forever_frost]

Sketchy. Poor fucking driver also. I would have been like WTF you #@$#%^ ^$^$#$@$. Curious of the time frame between the load noise and her getting to the window and the speed at which she approached, demeanor, etc. Odd that is for sure. Guy may have just been a skitish cop that shouldn't have carried a gun.

Jason, aren't those holsters retention holsters which means he'd have had to pull straight up and then aim before opening fire so it's even less likely it was a ND? It wasn't just a quick twitch to a pop. It was a deliberate response.

And squad cars tend to be equipped with lights.

[kingjason]

Jason, aren't those holsters retention holsters which means he'd have had to pull straight up and then aim before opening fire so it's even less likely it was a ND? It wasn't just a quick twitch to a pop. It was a deliberate response.

And squad cars tend to be equipped with lights.

Unless he heard the noise, un holstered, she popped her head in the window and pop. They are retention but still fairly easy to manipulate unless you get up into some of the weird level three ones.

I bet the driver has been very specific about the incident and it will be interesting to see his actual statement. He did not pull the trigger what the hell good would it do trying to protect the other guy's ass. I always told my guys to tell the truth about shit I have done, because chances are I have already told myself.

The passenger is by no means saying he didn't fuck up. He is just not saying anything but the first apology. Depending on the department he may be smart not to say anything. Look up, Garrity Warning. I mean if you could be possible facing man slaughter charges would you jump right out there and speak up. Everyone has the right not to say anything. Look at all these treasonous assholes in congress.

[Forever_frost]

Looks like he is refusing to be interviewed now

Reports are coming out as to the reason why Officer Mohamed Noor shot down Australian bride-to-be Justine Damond.

During the time of the incident fireworks were heard going off.

According to the Daily Mail: A source with knowledge of Minneapolis law enforcement, who asked not to be identified, told AAP on Tuesday it ‘would be good common sense to investigate’ the fireworks link.

The sound of fireworks may have startled Officer Mohamed Noor, the policeman who fired the fatal bullet to the 40-year-old spiritual healer’s abdomen.

The fireworks link came as it was revealed Noor’s partner was ‘stunned’ when the rookie cop opened fire through the squad-car door at Damond, who had approached the car, dressed in pyjamas.

This seems highly suspicious though, since the call to the police was of a sexual assault and Noor’s partner never viewed Damond as a threat.

Plus the fact that he reached over his partner to fire his weapon, again shows suspicious activity.

Now, the officer in question is even refusing to cooperate with investigators.

A reference to fireworks can be heard during the police radio conversations between Officer Noor, Officer Matthew Harrity, and the police dispatcher co-ordinating the emergency call and other officers rushing to scene.

At one point the dispatcher asks for a precinct sergeant to acknowledge a report of ‘two shots heard from the east’.

‘We heard those sounds from the station,’ an officer responds.

‘Those are probably aerial fireworks.’

The independent Minnesota Department of Public Safety Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, not the Minneapolis Police Department, is investigating the shooting and revealed on Wednesday that Noor has refused to be interviewed.

‘Officer Noor has declined to be interviewed by BCA agents at this time. Officer Noor’s attorney did not provide clarification on when, if ever, an interview would be possible,’ the BCA said in a press release on its website.

http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/officer-mohamed-noor-refuses-cooperate-investigators-shooting-dead-yoga-teacher/

Update on BCA Investigation of Minneapolis Officer Involved Shooting
ST. PAUL — The Minnesota Department of Public Safety Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) today confirmed identity of the two Minneapolis Police Department officers involved in an officer involved shooting incident on Saturday, July 15. The BCA is conducting the investigation at the request of the Minneapolis Police Department.

Officer Matthew Harrity has been an officer with the Minneapolis Police Department for one year.
Officer Mohamed Noor has been an officer with the Minneapolis Police Department for 21 months.
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office on Monday evening confirmed the identity of the deceased as Justine Maia Ruszczyk, 40, of 5024 Washburn Avenue South in Minneapolis. Ruszczyk died of a single gunshot wound to the abdomen.

BCA agents interviewed Officer Harrity earlier today. Officer Noor has declined to be interviewed by BCA agents at this time. Officer Noor’s attorney did not provide clarification on when, if ever, an interview would be possible.

According to the BCA’s preliminary investigation, officers Harrity and Noor responded to a 911 call from a woman now identified as Ruszczyk of a possible assault near her residence just after 11:30 p.m. Saturday. Officer Harrity was driving. Officer Noor was in the passenger seat.

The officers drove south through the alley between Washburn and Xerxes avenues toward West 51st Street in search of a suspect. All squad lights were off.

As they reached West 51st Street, Officer Harrity indicated that he was startled by a loud sound near the squad. Immediately afterward Ruszczyk approached the driver’s side window of the squad. Harrity indicated that Officer Noor discharged his weapon, striking Ruszczyk through the open driver’s side window.

The officers immediately exited the squad and provided medical attention until medical personnel arrived. Ruszczyk was pronounced dead at the scene. Both officers have been placed on standard administrative leave.

Officer Harrity told investigators that the officers saw an 18-25 year old white male who was bicycling eastbound on West 51st Street immediately before the shooting. This individual stopped at the scene and watched as the officers provided medical assistance to Ruszczyk. BCA agents would like to speak with this person, and anyone else who may have witnessed the incident. These individuals are asked to contact the BCA at 651-793-7000.

Crime scene personnel recovered a cell phone near the victim. No weapons were recovered.

Body cameras were not turned on until after the shooting incident. The squad camera was not turned on. Investigators are aware of no video or audio of the shooting. The BCA’s investigation does not determine whether a law enforcement agency policy was violated. That would be reviewed through the agency’s internal affairs process.

https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ooc/news-releases/Pages/Update-on-BCA-Investigation-of-Minneapolis-Officer-Involved-Shooting.aspx

[Forever_frost]

So he can't be compelled to do anything. Right. That shouldn't be possible. Public servant, put on a badge and are more protected and privileged than those served. That should come with a penalty such as this. You should be compelled to testify every damned time.


Frequently Asked Questions
What can BCA tell us about whether body camera policies were complied with in this case?
That question is in the jurisdiction of the City of Minneapolis and the Minneapolis Police Department.

Why was one officer interviewed, and the other was not?
Under the law, the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension cannot compel the testimony of either officer.

How long will the investigation take?
The Bureau of Criminal Apprehension understands the urgency of this case and is proceeding as rapidly as possible without compromising the integrity of the investigation. BCA agents conduct thorough, independent investigations of officer involved shooting incidents at the request of local law enforcement agencies across Minnesota.

Ruszczyk had called 911 to report a possible assault. What happened with that investigation?
That is a question that is in the jurisdiction of the City of Minneapolis and the Minneapolis Police Department.

The first officer was interviewed more than two days after the incident. Can officers talk with other people about the incident before talking to investigators?
Each agency has its own policies. There are no laws restricting an individual’s right to speak to others after an incident.

When can we get the video and other information from the investigation?
Under Minnesota law, certain information related to an investigation becomes public when all investigative and court processes are concluded. The law says investigative data is confidential or protected nonpublic while the investigation is active.

What’s left to do in the investigation before it is turned over to the county attorney?
Unless someone else comes forward, the BCA does not have additional interviews scheduled at this time. Forensic testing is being completed and all evidence must be examined. It is common for a county attorney to request follow-up information when reviewing a case.

What is BCA responsible for and what is MPD responsible for?
The BCA’s investigation is limited to determining the facts of the shooting incident. Any review of department policy, including use of body cameras, would be done through the Minneapolis Police Department internal affairs process.

Why did the officer not agree to be interviewed?
That question should be directed to the officer or his attorney. The BCA cannot compel an officer to provide an interview.

Can the 911 call be released and by which agency?
Minnesota law (Minn. Statute 13.82 subd. 4) says the audio recording of a 911 call is not public; however, a written transcript of the audio recording is public, in this case, from the Minneapolis Police Department.

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[Chili]

I disagree there Frost.. Everyone should have the right to remain silent and be afforded the same constitutional protections. They shouldn't get additional protection, but still are citizens and human.

[Rick Modena]

Fuuck, this has me lmmfao!

[Forever_frost]

I disagree there Frost.. Everyone should have the right to remain silent and be afforded the same constitutional protections. They shouldn't get additional protection, but still are citizens and human.

If that involved them being treated EXACTLY the same as a citizen then I agree. Since they're not..

[Craizie]

If that involved them being treated EXACTLY the same as a citizen then I agree. Since they're not..

King Jason seems aight, but even he refers to the common folk as " His citizens". I do not believe police see themselves as citizens.

[kingjason]

King Jason seems aight, but even he refers to the common folk as " His citizens". I do not believe police see themselves as citizens.

Want me to say my peeps, the commoners, the people that pay my salary? Sorry, that's normal jargon and not to make people sound below me. How about the fine people in my city. I can't make everyone happy all the time. KINGJASON god dammit.

[Forever_frost]

King Jason seems aight, but even he refers to the common folk as " His citizens". I do not believe police see themselves as citizens.

Most forget they are citizens and not military. That things like speed limits, seatbelt laws and even physics when blowing through a red light with no lights or sirens apply to them.

[davbrucas]

Most forget they are citizens and not military. That things like speed limits, seatbelt laws and even physics when blowing through a red light with no lights or sirens apply to them.

Agreed. Cops believe that they are above citizens and therefore, they are not bound by the same laws as the rest of us. I guess it's hard not to get that way when they aren't held accountable like the rest of us.

[Gasser64]

Most of em are a pretty good lot. Its just the bad apples that tarnish the reputation of the whole bunch. They could weed that out completely though, if they'd stop all that foolish defending of the bad ones.