Weed use can lead to kidney failure

[jluv]

So you dont have a problem with antivaxxers either?

Huh? Nothing I said has anything to do with anti-vaxxers. Putting words in someone else's mouth is not a very effective way to get a point across.

I don't agree with comparing anyone who claims there are medical benefits of weed/CBD to anti-vaxxers. That's some far-fetched nonsense (and yet another ineffective way to get a point across).

Part of the "yadda yadda yadda" in my post above was that I do believe there are some undeniable benefits.

My main point, stated yet again, is that I don't think it should really matter whether there are medical benefits to it. It should be legal, even for people who simply want to get stoned.

[jluv]

Lol this is what they all say...but we can definitely tell. Much like functioning alcoholics think it doesnt have an impact...when someone is impaired you can always tell.

I'm not disagreeing that highly successful people smoke weed daily. I have some friends that do...but just like all the other alcoholics and potheads...they think they're sly when everyone else can see right through those glassy dead eyes.

It amazes me that some people literally cant go a day sober.

Eh, again, you're just giving yourself too much credit.

[Ruffdaddy]

yadda yadda yadda ...


At the end of the day, if folks want to identify and praise any medical benefits, that's fine, but I don't think that needs to be the reason for legalizing it. I just think adults should have the freedom to get stoned recreationally, if they want.

So you dont have a problem with antivaxxers either?

[jluv]

I would agree that smoking weed can't be good for the lungs. No filter, and the whole idea is to inhale deeply and hold it in. The only saving grace over cigs is that most people aren't smoking 20 joints a day, whereas a lot of cig smokers are smoking a pack a day, or more.

It is what it is. I don't think it's a cure for lung cancer. That's crazy talk. I also happen to believe that at least some of the medical benefits that get touted are a little far-fetched. But that's just my opinion, and I'm not a scientist or anything, so whatever. I do believe it can help with seizures, nausea, appetite, and pain, to a degree.

At the end of the day, if folks want to identify and praise any medical benefits, that's fine, but I don't think that needs to be the reason for legalizing it. I just think adults should have the freedom to get stoned recreationally, if they want.

[Ruffdaddy]

There are TONS of extremely professional, successful, healthy, ambitious people who smoke weed every day, and you wouldn't know, unless they told you. You can see it with some folks, but certainly not with all of them. If you think you can, you're giving yourself way too much credit. And as I've mentioned before, the ones who are obvious "potheads" are the same folks who already would be dopey, whether on weed, or something else, or just lazy/dumb in general. The weed isn't really the core issue to blame.

Lol this is what they all say...but we can definitely tell. Much like functioning alcoholics think it doesnt have an impact...when someone is impaired you can always tell.

I'm not disagreeing that highly successful people smoke weed daily. I have some friends that do...but just like all the other alcoholics and potheads...they think they're sly when everyone else can see right through those glassy dead eyes.

It amazes me that some people literally cant go a day sober.

[kingjason]

Now lets not go calling people any names here. Even Hightimes says smoking pot can't be good for your lungs. A lot of the articles defending smoking it are from a study out of the University of California from 2012. I think now that it is legal in areas we will see more interesting studies.

https://hightimes.com/health/effect-weed-lungs/

[jluv]

I was talking about people mixing weed and Xanax not a comparison of the two.

Yes, I realize that. My point is that if someone is doing Xanax, weed isn't going to do squat. Any funky stuff you see from them would much more likely contributed to abusing Xanax, and not smoking weed.

I was also stating I can recognize a chronic weed smoker like I can an alcoholic. Another words, too much of either has effects on folks they don't see but everyone else does.

There are TONS of extremely professional, successful, healthy, ambitious people who smoke weed every day, and you wouldn't know, unless they told you. You can see it with some folks, but certainly not with all of them. If you think you can, you're giving yourself way too much credit. And as I've mentioned before, the ones who are obvious "potheads" are the same folks who already would be dopey, whether on weed, or something else, or just lazy/dumb in general. The weed isn't really the core issue to blame.

Also if you put a 1.5 inch exhaust on a blown, nitro car, wouldn't you hate on the exhaust for making the car slow?

WUT?

[Ruffdaddy]

Fact. Weed smoke has never given anyone, ever, in the history of time, lung cancer. Not once. It has also never killed anyone from an overdose. Not once, ever.

Another thing, most people that smoke weed that don't have ambition while they smoke didn't have ambition before they smoked.


Also see: Reefermania



Lastly, it's not for everyone. Just like lobster or roller coasters... And that's okay.

Spoken like a true pothead. All of yall are the same...and your research is in line with that of the antivaxxers.

Do you really expect enough people to openly admit to breaking the law for scientific tests to be conclusive in that weed DOESNT cause lung cancer? And even if you're magically right...it causes a whole host of other lung diseases.

I dont believe you know what a "fact" is.

[kingjason]

Fact. Weed smoke has never given anyone, ever, in the history of time, lung cancer. Not once. It has also never killed anyone from an overdose. Not once, ever.

Another thing, most people that smoke weed that don't have ambition while they smoke didn't have ambition before they smoked.


Also see: Reefermania



Lastly, it's not for everyone. Just like lobster or roller coasters... And that's okay.

I think I meant liver for alcohol! There is no way that you could possibly believe that inhaling any type of smoke on a daily basis is good for your lungs. How about I just say lung disease. Do you work for Winston? The cigarette people said that for how many years? Random burning of anything and standing around can be hazardous to your health.

I asked every employer I came in contact with in Colorado how the legalizing of weed thing has gone. Got the same answer across the bored about lack of ambition and the people that have been attracted to Colorado. Could just be a millennial thing though. I am not a war on weed guy and I do believe there could possibly be some benefits for people with certain issues. But lets be honest it does not cure cancer!

https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/marijuana-and-lung-health.html

[CWO]

i spent most of my youth smoking pot . still worked 12-14 hrs a day . could smoke a joint on the way to work and still get the job done. todays pot is a whole different story . no way in hell i could do that. the absolute best from the 80's 90's is like shit pot today . i stopped 10 years ago because i just couldn't function on it and didn't like being totaly numb between the ears . that and getting old as dirt . i believe legalization is going to end up being a mistake . decriminalize it yes but legal is a whole other issue . if for no other reason it is 10 times worse on your lungs.

I’m going to go ahead and raise the flag.

Provide sources. Studies have already shown it to be less harmful.

You’re still inhaling smoke. Neither are good for your lungs. But please provide sources that state 10x worse. Or one that says it’s worse period.

I was talking about people mixing weed and Xanax not a comparison of the two. I was also stating I can recognize a chronic weed smoker like I can an alcoholic. Another words, too much of either has effects on folks they don't see but everyone else does. Lung Cancer/kidney failure, your choice. Not to be confused with a weekender or monthly guy.

Also if you put a 1.5 inch exhaust on a blown, nitro car, wouldn't you hate on the exhaust for making the car slow?

Fact. Weed smoke has never given anyone, ever, in the history of time, lung cancer. Not once. It has also never killed anyone from an overdose. Not once, ever.

Another thing, most people that smoke weed that don't have ambition while they smoke didn't have ambition before they smoked.


Also see: Reefermania



Lastly, it's not for everyone. Just like lobster or roller coasters... And that's okay.

[dcs13]

Why exactly?

I just figured it was the next "big thing". People were (and still are) touting this as the cure for everything . You hear the ads all the time now suggesting CBD for whatever your problem is. Couple that with a huge lack of scientific testing, then I'm a skeptic. BUT too, I'm a guy that rarely takes an ibuprofen .

[kingjason]

Anyone abusing alcohol or Xanax isn’t changing much with pot, except to mellow themselves out some.

Mentioning weed among those two is akin to having a race car with a blower and nitrous and then praising the exhaust setup for being fast.

I was talking about people mixing weed and Xanax not a comparison of the two. I was also stating I can recognize a chronic weed smoker like I can an alcoholic. Another words, too much of either has effects on folks they don't see but everyone else does. Lung Cancer/kidney failure, your choice. Not to be confused with a weekender or monthly guy.

Also if you put a 1.5 inch exhaust on a blown, nitro car, wouldn't you hate on the exhaust for making the car slow?

[Gasser64]

I was a HUGE skeptic on CBD for anything.

Why exactly?

[jluv]

I have seen actual long term issues for years in people. Paranoia is the biggest one. Lack of ambition is the other. Then mixing it with say Xanax has caused shit. Lots of long term smokers in Lancaster that would probably hit it once a day. Same with alcohol though. You can see the signs of alcoholism. I had a kid last week tell me marijuana cured cancer. It may help with the pain and ease the nausea associated with chemo but fucking cure it! No way you can cram any kind of smoke into your lungs that is going to be great for your body. I am very open minded on the subject, but lets not go crazy. He also told me it worked better than his bi polar meds. On that, I say maybe. I still say fuck all the shit like meth, crack and the other assorted sketchy misc drugs. Those turn people into fucking skeleton squirrels.

Anyone abusing alcohol or Xanax isn’t changing much with pot, except to mellow themselves out some.

Mentioning weed among those two is akin to having a race car with a blower and nitrous and then praising the exhaust setup for being fast.

[dcs13]

Any “real” GSD will have those exact traits. That’s what makes them a GSD and why people like me want one as a pet. Family first. That crazy drive is why they are ultimate defenders. Don’t own a dog that’s doing his/her job to perfection and dope it up for your lack of ability to choose the correct breed for your needs.

LOL, he's 7. and a real German bloodline. I've had Shepherds since I was a kid. I can handle the breed and understand their needs (hell I had a Malanois).We walk and chase balls every morning and evening. Wife is retired and with him all day. She went away for a weekend trip. I needed to go to the shop early on a Sunday morning to shoot some paint before it got hot. He didn't get his walk first thing.. I suffered the consequences.. He wanted out. Sometimes, he needs a little help chilling.