Scary stuff-parents, you need to be paying attention

[juiceweezl]

First, You are assuming that every private school is better at educating children than all public schools, but that is a big assumption. There are some pretty crappy ones out there.

Then you still have to worry about creating standards and overseeing those private schools. Otherwise what is to stop them from simply selling diplomas? Isn't that what people always complain about with some of the newer private universities like University of Phoenix?

When a school becomes a business the school is going to be more concerned with the bottom line than the actual education of the kids.. That is the way business is. Every company I have ever worked for was more concerned with shareholders' value than employees or customers. And those are not the type of people I want educating my kids.

Oh, and as for private school supporters, I can tell you to slow that train down too. They are some absolutely horrible private schools and some of the worst teachers ever. My brother taught at one when he got out of college (mainly he was there to coach baseball). They had terrible teachers. Private schools don't pay squat either. A few years back when things were booming and districts were struggling to find enough people, a lot of private school teachers were brought on board to ISD's. Want to guess who the worst teachers on the current ISD staffs are???

[sc281]

But the lifecycle for that to happen will be too slow and too much damage will be done in the mean time.

So, what is the life cycle for a bad Public School to die on the vine? I'm sure it's shorter than a Private entity going belly up, right?


Oh, wait...

[juiceweezl]

So, what is the life cycle for a bad Public School to die on the vine? I'm sure it's shorter than a Private entity going belly up, right?


Oh, wait...

In a well run district, the school doesn't "die on the vine." However, the administrative staff will turnover very quickly if it doesn't perform. It does happen, just not often enough.

[Sean88gt]

My kids are white! How is this possible?!

[sc281]

In a well run district, the school doesn't "die on the vine." However, the administrative staff will turnover very quickly if it doesn't perform. It does happen, just not often enough.

In a poorly run district, the school doesn't die either. THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

Take any school in South Dallas for example.

Problem: Kids do poor, Teachers do poor.

Solution : Lower the Standards and give the schools a bunch more funding.
(Keep in mind DISD's funding this year topped $1.1 Billion That's 1.1 with eight zeroes behind it.)

End Result : kids do poor, Teachers do poor.

[Zfan]

Problem: Kids do poor, Teachers do poor.

Solution : Lower the Standards and give the schools a bunch more funding.
(Keep in mind DISD's funding this year topped $1.1 Billion That's 1.1 with eight zeroes behind it.)

End Result : kids do poor, Teachers do poor.

Lazy, uneducated hood rats for parents, that's the first hurdle, second is poorly run schools who hold nobody accountable! If you are lazy and show no effort, out you go! Let your parents babysit your lazy free loading asses!

[juiceweezl]

In a poorly run district, the school doesn't die either. THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

Take any school in South Dallas for example.

Problem: Kids do poor, Teachers do poor.

Solution : Lower the Standards and give the schools a bunch more funding.
(Keep in mind DISD's funding this year topped $1.1 Billion That's 1.1 with eight zeroes behind it.)

End Result : kids do poor, Teachers do poor.

Hey, Mr. Private School. You do know the proper word to use is "poorly" since it's an adverb, right? I learned that in middle school during my public education that is apparently subpar.

As for the point you're making, it's not for private school as much for better administration or privatization of school management. Why close a school that has a perfectly good building to work out of? Change over the administration, make staff changes as necessary, and weed out the students that don't want to be there and don't put forth effort. Eliminate the NCLB crap and the requirement that they attend school, and you'll fix the problem.

[talisman]

I also cringe everytime I hear someone say "I have to pay for schools and I don't even have kids!" That may be true but IMO you are thinking about it wrong. Those of YOU who got a public education are just paying back what you consumed.

I've lived in this house 4 years, my condo before that 7. That is about 25k in taxes I've paid into public schools. Which is probably about 22k more than the value of the education I received. In fact, just doing that quick math and really thinking about how much I've paid in to in the time its taken me to make this post is making me a little sick.

[Chili]

I've lived in this house 4 years, my condo before that 7. That is about 25k in taxes I've paid into public schools. Which is probably about 22k more than the value of the education I received. In fact, just doing that quick math and really thinking about how much I've paid in to in the time its taken me to make this post is making me a little sick.

You paid school tax in an apartment!?! Damn, now I understand why you're pissed!

[ELVIS]

I've lived in this house 4 years, my condo before that 7. That is about 25k in taxes I've paid into public schools. Which is probably about 22k more than the value of the education I received. In fact, just doing that quick math and really thinking about how much I've paid in to in the time its taken me to make this post is making me a little sick.

Jr. says thanks Eric!

god bless.

[mstng86]

I've lived in this house 4 years, my condo before that 7. That is about 25k in taxes I've paid into public schools. Which is probably about 22k more than the value of the education I received. In fact, just doing that quick math and really thinking about how much I've paid in to in the time its taken me to make this post is making me a little sick.

Think of the CHILDREN man, the CHILDREN.

[sc281]

Hey, Mr. Private School. You do know the proper word to use is "poorly" since it's an adverb, right? I learned that in middle school during my public education that is apparently subpar.

Hastily written post in between two client meetings with no time to check grammar. Sue me.

As for the point you're making, it's not for private school as much for better administration or privatization of school management. Why close a school that has a perfectly good building to work out of? Change over the administration, make staff changes as necessary, and weed out the students that don't want to be there and don't put forth effort. Eliminate the NCLB crap and the requirement that they attend school, and you'll fix the problem.

So when is this going to get done again? Surely that is on the Public School agenda, right?

[Scott Mc]

Yea, I dont see my wifes contract getting renewed since she is a first year parra. I am actually cool with it because she gets beat up daily by her special needs teen. The pay for the this is all of 900.00 bucks take home at GCISD. I do worry for my mom because her school will be closing in 2 years.

[Slowhand]

I also cringe everytime I hear someone say "I have to pay for schools and I don't even have kids!" That may be true but IMO you are thinking about it wrong. Those of YOU who got a public education are just paying back what you consumed.

Care to do the math on that one? I can guarantee that the cost of the services I actually consumed in public education were far lower than the cost of services allocated to each student.

[chuckacosta]

I just hope that all this shit is gone and figured out by the time I become a teacher in ~4-5 years!