Scary stuff-parents, you need to be paying attention

[bcoop]

Interesting side note and someone who knows more may be able to chime in.

It is my understanding that the way the Robin Hood plan works is that school districts that rake in tons of money from property taxes, Southlake for example, have to send excess amounts (not sure how that is calculated) to the state for redistribution. Capital projects are excluded from that calculation as to what is excessive. So when you see giant stadiums and nice new buildings, in the eyes of the school district, that represents money that would have been sent to Austin to educate illegal aliens in South Texas.

Ah, yes. The ever present and oft abused loophole.

[03trubluGT]

I can't wait to see what kind of increased tax proposals they come out with next. Don't worry the tax payers will come to the rescue once again, just like we always do. Don't worry about the fact the you work hard for what you have/earn, just suck it up and keep paying more taxes for the good of the State. Here's an idea, maybe the State of Texas could actually try being more frugal in it's spending. Wow, what a concept.

Paying for illegals education and medical is going to end up breaking us like it did Kalifornia.

[Silverback]

I also cringe everytime I hear someone say "I have to pay for schools and I don't even have kids!" That may be true but IMO you are thinking about it wrong. Those of YOU who got a public education are just paying back what you consumed.

But our parents paid for that, and then some.

Especially those of us with divorced parents who had two homes and paid two times the taxes toward education.

[03trubluGT]

cant use that term asshole!!!!!!!

god bless.

Ahhhh, you caught it!

What happens to the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that is collected in lottery money?

[sc281]

I also cringe everytime I hear someone say "I have to pay for schools and I don't even have kids!" That may be true but IMO you are thinking about it wrong. Those of YOU who got a public education are just paying back what you consumed.

Forcing an entire society (well, the net taxpayers) to pay the most in the entire world for sub standard education. No, I think I have it pretty much right.


Give me my property tax money and I'll put it to better use giving it to a private school for the child I may or may not have.

[Chili]

But our parents paid for that, and then some.

Especially those of us with divorced parents who had two homes and paid two times the taxes toward education.

But who paid for the, and then before that, and before that? Lol.. My point is that every person that received a public education has no room to complain that they have to pay. If everyone took that stance when they were kids they wouldn't have gotten an education.

Besides.. I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way....

[sc281]

But who paid for the, and then before that, and before that? Lol.. My point is that every person that received a public education has no room to complain that they have to pay. If everyone took that stance when they were kids they wouldn't have gotten an education.
Besides.. I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way....

No, they would have gotten taught privately or at home and would have been smarter for it.

[bcoop]

Because we all know how important THAT is....

You are missing the point. Rich districts, like Allen, Prosper, and Frisco would lose that $65 million anyways. So, if you were in their shoes, would you rather lose the money to some remote poor district, or would you rather "lose" it on a state of the art stadium? Hell, I don't blame them. I'd do the same thing. I do have a problem that the loophole exists though.

[Chili]

Forcing an entire society (well, the net taxpayers) to pay the most in the entire world for sub standard education. No, I think I have it pretty much right.

Give me my property tax money and I'll put it to better use giving it to a private school for the child I may or may not have.

There are inherent problems with privatization of the education system as well. And I am curious how any of us have any modicum of success with the piss poor education we all got.

Everyone seems to have an opinion on why they should not have to pay for education through taxes but nobody seems to be stepping up to figure out how to do it better.

[sc281]

There are inherent problems with privatization of the education system as well.

Such as?

And I am curious how any of us have any modicum of success with the piss poor education we all got.

Everyone seems to have an opinion on why they should not have to pay for education through taxes but nobody seems to be stepping up to figure out how to do it better.

Eh hm.

private school

[bcoop]

But who paid for the, and then before that, and before that? Lol.. My point is that every person that received a public education has no room to complain that they have to pay. If everyone took that stance when they were kids they wouldn't have gotten an education.

Besides.. I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way....

The kids aren't being taught well. That's part of the big problem. We pay the most in the world for an education, and it's the lowest quality education out there. Govt needs to let schools go, and let the private sector take over. Much more efficient.

[Chili]

No, they would have gotten taught privately or at home and would have been smarter for it.

You sure they would have been smarter? First lets seperate smart from educated, because there is a big difference between the two. But I can guarantee that our children today are more educated in our "crappy" school systems than my grandparents who were educated by their parents, who were educated by their parents.

[sc281]

You sure they would have been smarter? First lets seperate smart from educated, because there is a big difference between the two. But I can guarantee that our children today are more educated in our "crappy" school systems than my grandparents who were educated by their parents, who were educated by their parents.

Look how well your Grandparents did with their 'crappy' education. Less 'educated' yet still did great for themselves.

Education was a privelage and they worked hard for it, and apprecated the opportunity.

Look how many of our students can't graduate with the new 'crappy education'. More 'educated' (the 40% that graduate), but dumb as rocks.

Education is a 'right' and no one cares about the quality of that educated as long as they have a piece of paper saying they did the minimum required.

Which would I put my bet on to have a better life? Do I really need to answer?

[Silverback]

I am with Chili on this, the education being given isn't so much the problem, as the initiative by shitty parents on making sure their children follow through and receive that education. My parents were a big part of me getting good grades, and insisting that I was raised with good values and morals. That's not the school system's job, it's the parents, but both do go hand in hand.

[Chili]

Such as?



Eh hm.

private school

First, You are assuming that every private school is better at educating children than all public schools, but that is a big assumption. There are some pretty crappy ones out there.

Then you still have to worry about creating standards and overseeing those private schools. Otherwise what is to stop them from simply selling diplomas? Isn't that what people always complain about with some of the newer private universities like University of Phoenix?

When a school becomes a business the school is going to be more concerned with the bottom line than the actual education of the kids.. That is the way business is. Every company I have ever worked for was more concerned with shareholders' value than employees or customers. And those are not the type of people I want educating my kids.