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  • I keep hearing that we should not be blaming islam for the attack and that there are "Plenty of good muslims" who did not attack anyone. The funny thing is I can't remember that logic being used in regards to the Germans and the Japanese when we went to war with them and burned their cities to the ground while killing their women and children. We defeated both of them in a pretty short amount of time if I recall correctly.
    Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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    • Originally posted by Magnus View Post
      That, and hashtag activism...
      "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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      • Originally posted by svo855 View Post
        I keep hearing that we should not be blaming islam for the attack and that there are "Plenty of good muslims" who did not attack anyone. The funny thing is I can't remember that logic being used in regards to the Germans and the Japanese when we went to war with them and burned their cities to the ground while killing their women and children. We defeated both of them in a pretty short amount of time if I recall correctly.
        Yes and Obama gracefully apologized to the Japanese for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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        • Originally posted by SS Junk View Post
          Yes and Obama gracefully apologized to the Japanese for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

          Oh. Was he able to un-nuke their cities or was he just spewing hot air like he always does?
          Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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          • Originally posted by svo855 View Post
            Oh. Was he able to un-nuke their cities or was he just spewing hot air like he always does?
            Yes, I believe he used his Nobel peace prize to reverse it.
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
              Yes, I believe he used his Nobel peace prize to reverse it.

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              • Oh, hey, the Paris attack is a "setback".

                "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                • Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                  Oh, hey, the Paris attack is a "setback".
                  Well at least he didn't blame the attack on global warming, in that specific speech. Good old Bernie didn't hold back though.

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                  • Originally posted by BP View Post
                    Well at least he didn't blame the attack on global warming, in that specific speech. Good old Bernie didn't hold back though.

                    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-s...errorism-link/
                    Oh, he's just echoing what Obama said a few months back.
                    "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                    • Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                      I keep hearing that we should not be blaming islam for the attack and that there are "Plenty of good muslims" who did not attack anyone. The funny thing is I can't remember that logic being used in regards to the Germans and the Japanese when we went to war with them and burned their cities to the ground while killing their women and children. We defeated both of them in a pretty short amount of time if I recall correctly.
                      It is funny how a philosophy of Total War seems to take the fight out of people.
                      Originally posted by racrguy
                      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                      Originally posted by racrguy
                      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                      • NAVAL STATION NORFOLK, Va. — The Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group departed early Monday on what's expected to be a*seven-month deployment*as tensions rise in the fight against so-called Islamic State group militants. Though the mission*has been scheduled for more than a year, the recent terrorist attacks in France — and that nation's military response — was not lost on the 6,000 sailors headed to sea.



                        "We certainly extend our condolences to the French and look forward to supporting them as part of a coalition in any way that we can," said Rear Adm. Bret Batchelder, the Truman strike group's*commander. "We are a barometer of national resolve. We are going to go where it is most important for our nation to send us, anywhere around the globe, and we don't need a permission slip to operate there. That's the value that we bring and we take great pride in that."

                        There were no immediate changes to deployment orders as a result of Friday's terror attacks, but there is great resolve among the sailors to support their French allies, said Capt. Ryan Scholl, Truman’s commanding officer. Scholl said his crew is ready to bring peace or "violent destruction."

                        USA TODAY

                        Obama: No ground troops against Islamic State

                        Carrier Theodore Roosevelt left the area in mid-October, leaving that region without a carrier until the Truman Carrier Strike Group*gets there, which should be about six weeks. Scholl offered assurance to coalition and U.S. forces still in the fight across Syria and Iraq as part of Operation Inherent Resolve.

                        "The Harry S. Truman battle group will be there in due time and execute our mission successfully," he said. "We hope that brings some peace of mind to the people that are out there, both our coalition partners as well as our troops on the ground, and it brings a hard-to-swallow, deliberate pause in our enemy."

                        “The Harry S. Truman battle group will be there in due time and execute our mission successfully.”

                        Capt. Ryan Scholl, commanding officer Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group

                        The Islamic State is not the only challenge that awaits the flotilla, which includes the cruiser Anzio, Carrier Wing Air 7, and destroyers Bulkeley, Gravely and Gonzalez. Russian, Chinese and Iranian marines have established their presence in Syria, and Russian warships from the Black Sea have relocated to the eastern Mediterranean to protect fighter jets conducting airstrikes in support of Syria's Assad regime. In preparation, the strike group's Composite Training Unit Exercise focused on adversaries that more closely resembled those of the Cold War.

                        Just to get underway is a victory of sorts for Truman's crew. The Navy in October 2014 bumped up her deployment date by nearly half a year as Truman took the place of the carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower. Ike had a record-setting, 23-month period at the naval yard*after back-to-back deployments from June 2012 to December 2012, and from February 2013 to July 2013, causing more maintenance than expected.

                        Truman entered a shortened overhaul at Norfolk Naval Shipyard in November.*It was supposed to last 15 weeks and require 78,000 man-days, but nearly doubled to more than 28 weeks and 135,000 man-days. The expedited deployment also required the crew to get all qualifications in less than half the normal work-up time; the*crew did one year's worth of training in five months and did so without one waiver.

                        The pride of that achievement was evident on the face of Command Master Chief Tony Perryman.

                        "Where we have been and where we are now is a true testament to the hard work and dedication of our sailors," he said. "This is the best place to be on planet Earth."

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                        • The DOD just banned travel to Paris for military. Not that I'd want to go but I've never seen travel restrictions into an allied country before.



                          A travel ban is in place for U.S. military personnel planning to go to Paris.

                          Unofficial travel to Paris is prohibited — including leave, liberty and special pass — and includes a 50-kilometer radius around the city. The travel restriction, implemented in the aftermath of Friday's deadly attacks in Paris, applies to all Defense Department personnel, according to a statement from U.S. European Command.

                          Personnel on official travel or emergency leave to Paris or elsewhere in France will need approval from a general officer, according to EUCOM.

                          In addition, DoD personnel who wish to go on unofficial travel elsewhere in France will also need approval from a general officer, according to EUCOM.


                          MILITARYTIMES
                          Chilling Islamic State video warns of more attacks on West

                          The policy applies to military personnel, DoD civilian employees, contractors and command-sponsored dependents and family members. The policy also applies to cruise-ship shore excursions but does not apply to military personnel assigned to diplomatic posts in France and individuals who have commercial airline connections in the country and will not leave the secure portions of airport terminals, according to the statement from EUCOM.

                          The travel restriction is a "precautionary measure" to keep personnel and families safe in light of the recent attacks, EUCOM said. It also is an effort to help minimize tourist traffic at the borders in France, and particularly in Paris, as French authorities continue their investigation.

                          "My deepest sympathies go out to the people of Paris and France, and all those impacted by these horrific terror attacks," said Air Force Gen. Philip M. Breedlove, commander of EUCOM and Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, in a statement released Saturday. "I have contacted the French chief of defense and offered to assist in any way our military can. We will continue to stand beside our oldest NATO ally to deter, disrupt and defeat terrorists who threaten our values, freedoms and way of life."

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                          • papa always said if you gotta fight a sob dont waste time talking him to death .

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                            • Its a never ending "war" on terrorism...

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                              • Originally posted by BP View Post
                                The DOD just banned travel to Paris for military. Not that I'd want to go but I've never seen travel restrictions into an allied country before.
                                Wow, that is pretty serious. Back in the mid to late 90's, travel to Mindanao in the Philippines was prohibited at a lot of times due to terrorist activity. Even when it was allowed to the northern portion of the island, you had to provide the embassy with a daily itinerary. Abu Sayaf, and the New People's Army are still pretty active there. And, as luck (?) would have it, I was in Manila at the same time as Ramzi Yousef.
                                [/svo855]
                                "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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