Do you "clean" your chicken?

[Captain Crawfish]

I just marinade and throw it on the grill. I cook to internal 165 for safety

[fordracing19]

No thermometer here.

[ftp]

I'd be more concerned with if the chicken is hormone and cage free over bacteria on the skin. Wash a conventional chicken all you want, you can't wash away the hormones pumped into it and the shit it lived in its entire life.

Krogers simple truth brand offers a reasonably-priced hormone cage free bird if you're looking for the whole bird. I know a lot of these cage free hormone free birds are really expensive.

[bcoop]

I'd be more concerned with if the chicken is hormone and cage free over bacteria on the skin. Wash a conventional chicken all you want, you can't wash away the hormones pumped into it and the shit it lived in its entire life.

Krogers simple truth brand offers a reasonably-priced hormone cage free bird if you're looking for the whole bird. I know a lot of these cage free hormone free birds are really expensive.

Kroger has a class action law suit against them for the Simple Truth brand, for the chicken not really being free range or organic. Thanks to a lack of truth in labeling laws, terms like free range, organic, grass fed, etc don't mean a fucking thing unless you know your farmer/rancher. Many, MANY companies are just slapping a label on it but are selling the same exact product as they were before. Buyer beware.

[ftp]

Kroger has a class action law suit against them for the Simple Truth brand, for the chicken not really being free range or organic. Thanks to a lack of truth in labeling laws, terms like free range, organic, grass fed, etc don't mean a fucking thing unless you know your farmer/rancher. Many, MANY companies are just slapping a label on it but are selling the same exact product as they were before. Buyer beware.

Wow. Thanks for the heads up, good to know. Is there a brand that you are aware of that's legit cage/hormone free?

[CexMashean]

What are the research proven measurable benefits given by eating cage free and hormone free birds?

[GeorgeG.]

I usually grill frozen chicken breast so it goes from the packaging, to season/marinade, to grill. No thermometer, just go by the way it feels when I press/poke it. I've never really had any issues with getting sick so I guess I'm killing all of the bacteria. I can't say I've ever concerned myself with it and just figured I was grilling it long enough before drying it out.

Does bacteria and salmonella grow on the outside of the meat or IN the meat?

[Ruffdaddy]

I usually grill frozen chicken breast so it goes from the packaging, to season/marinade, to grill. No thermometer, just go by the way it feels when I press/poke it. I've never really had any issues with getting sick so I guess I'm killing all of the bacteria. I can't say I've ever concerned myself with it and just figured I was grilling it long enough before drying it out.

Does bacteria and salmonella grow on the outside of the meat or IN the meat?

Bcoop will know more, but i believe the majority of bacteria grows on the outside.

I dont wash meat just because of bacteria...i wash it because i dont know who all has handled it and what its been sitting in. I also dont like the slimy texture of some meats that have been sitting in a package for ahwile.

[bcoop]

Wow. Thanks for the heads up, good to know. Is there a brand that you are aware of that's legit cage/hormone free?

Best advice I can give is buy local, and get to know the merchants at local farmer's markets. They are far less likely to lie to your face than a corporation, and many will even invite you out to see their operation once you've formed a relationship.

What are the research proven measurable benefits given by eating cage free and hormone free birds?

I'm not positive studies have even been done. But I can say with absolute certainty that you consume what your food consumes. Hormones, pesticides, you name it. What you eat gets flavor from what it eats.


There is a huge farm to table movement going on in the Northeast, and at the center is an Amish chicken farm. They are free range chickens and fed only vegetable scraps. No grain. No hormones. No steroids. The chicken has unbelievable flavor. It is what chicken used to taste like. Chicken as you know it barely resembles what chicken used to be. Chicken in stores are fed so many steroids, hormones, and are bred in such a way that the chickens can't even stand up. They are too top heavy. Chicken breasts aren't supposed to be 2-3" thick. They've bred and grown them that way to get those nice thick breasts you see in stores. All of that affects the flavor.


If this interests any of you, I strongly suggest watching Chef's Table on Netflix. Great series.

EDIT: I was wrong on the farm name, but they appear to be doing the same thing the one I referenced is.

[mstng86]

There is a huge farm to table movement going on in the Northeast, and at the center is an Amish chicken farm named D'Artagnan/Green Circle Chicken. They are free range chickens and fed only vegetable scraps. No grain. No hormones. No steroids. The chicken has unbelievable flavor. It is what chicken used to taste like. Chicken as you know it barely resembles what chicken used to be. Chicken in stores are fed so many steroids, hormones, and are bred in such a way that the chickens can't even stand up. They are too top heavy. Chicken breasts aren't supposed to be 2-3" thick. They've bred and grown them that way to get those nice thick breasts you see in stores. All of that affects the flavor.


If this interests any of you, I strongly suggest watching Chef's Table on Netflix. Great series.

I usually have to fly my chicken breasts from Sprouts(at least 2" thick) and I have often wondered if chickens really have always had breasts that big.

Along the lines of food being crap now, watch Fed Up on Netflix too. Sugar is the debul.

[bcoop]

I usually have to fly my chicken breasts from Sprouts(at least 2" thick) and I have often wondered if chickens really have always had breasts that big.

Hell no they haven't. And personally, I don't want my chicken breasts to be that big or thick. I have to pound the shit out of them to get them the way I like.

[Tremor14]

so you beat, your meat?

[bcoop]

so you beat, your meat?

like it owes me back rent.

[Tyrone Biggums]

I usually have to fly my chicken breasts from Sprouts(at least 2" thick) and I have often wondered if chickens really have always had breasts that big.

Along the lines of food being crap now, watch Fed Up on Netflix too. Sugar is the debul.

We've noticed this as well. The chicken breasts from Sprouts are fucking huge and we normally just split one. I think they actually taste better and seem more moist than what we're used to always getting from Kroger. I know Kroger's chicken comes in frozen, where Sprouts claims theirs is never frozen.

[Rick Modena]

Since we got a bunch of PhD Chicken fuckers in here.

so you beat, your meat?

like it owes me back rent.

lmao!