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  • #31
    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Is this an opportunity to school him on the constitution?
    How do you know when someone is in law school? They'll tell you.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
      Plus 200+ years of case law, interpretation, application, etc. Reading 1 amendment, taken only as an amendment is one thing, but to assume that is how it is applied (justly or unjustly) is naive and misses a lot of precedence.
      Not to mention there's at least four words in your post alone that go above most people's comprehension level...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by juiceweezl View Post
        Not to mention there's at least four words in your post alone that go above most people's comprehension level...
        You're correct. Jefferson believed that current generations shouldn't be governed by the dead and suggested a scrap-heaping and rewrite ever 19-20 years. After going through an in-depth look into the commerce clause, due process, and equal protection, I tend to agree with him. The language has been used against itself to create total power for the government.

        Look at how courts, congress, and the executive have weaseled their way around the constitution to find outcomes favorable to their agendas.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
          You're correct. Jefferson believed that current generations shouldn't be governed by the dead and suggested a scrap-heaping and rewrite ever 19-20 years. After going through an in-depth look into the commerce clause, due process, and equal protection, I tend to agree with him. The language has been used against itself to create total power for the government.

          Look at how courts, congress, and the executive have weaseled their way around the constitution to find outcomes favorable to their agendas.
          I can argue with none of this
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          • #35
            Any new info on the story?
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            • #36
              Look at Sean, sounding like a Constitutional attorney. Sean 2020?
              "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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              • #37
                Originally posted by helosailor View Post
                Look at Sean, sounding like a Constitutional attorney. Sean 2020?
                Shiiiit. I'll be 43 with a closet full of skeletons. Doubtful.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                  Shiiiit. I'll be 43 with a closet full of skeletons. Doubtful.
                  So, a perfect candidate. I'll start looking into yard signs.
                  "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by helosailor View Post
                    So, a perfect candidate. I'll start looking into yard signs.
                    I have been vasectomized, so there would be no Strom Thurmond moments.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                      Plus 200+ years of case law, interpretation, application, etc. Reading 1 amendment, taken only as an amendment is one thing, but to assume that is how it is applied (justly or unjustly) is naive and misses a lot of precedence.
                      obama care less and the gay marriage ruling come to mind.

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                      • #41
                        Then you have flat out unconstitutional actions like creating the EPA, firearm regulations, DEA, ATF, DHS, Dep of Education, Dep of Energy, Dep of labor....
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                          You're correct. Jefferson believed that current generations shouldn't be governed by the dead and suggested a scrap-heaping and rewrite ever 19-20 years. After going through an in-depth look into the commerce clause, due process, and equal protection, I tend to agree with him. The language has been used against itself to create total power for the government.

                          Look at how courts, congress, and the executive have weaseled their way around the constitution to find outcomes favorable to their agendas.
                          Pretty cool to know that some people do get it..... Also downright scary isn't it?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                            Shiiiit. I'll be 43 with a closet full of skeletons. Doubtful.
                            As long as you haven't snorted coke of a hookers back while exploring her butt hole with your pee pee, you probably have a shot. Heck you probably have a shot even if you have as long as you didn't get caught on video.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                              Then you have flat out unconstitutional actions like creating the EPA, firearm regulations, DEA, ATF, DHS, Dep of Education, Dep of Energy, Dep of labor....
                              Bullshit. It is an area of law called Agency Law (executive branch agencies). They are created by the Congress and given deference to operate as experts in their respective areas. Although not specifically laid out by the Constitution, laws were passed under the guise of the Constitution to enable their creation. That doesn't make them flatly unconstitutional.

                              What firearm legislation is flatly unconstitutional? Things have been cut down, some pieces have been removed, etc., but they have gone through the requisite challenges.

                              Again, some of the stuff fucking sucks, I won't disagree with you, but the 3 branches have worked long and hard to create the system we have now. So blame John Marshall, the most powerful man in the history of this country.

                              Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
                              Pretty cool to know that some people do get it..... Also downright scary isn't it?
                              Terrifying. I thought that attorneys focusing on one specific issue were insane and looking to run out of work, but the reality is, that things have been moving, changing, morphing since Marbury v. Madison.

                              Roberts operates in a similar matter and is changing a lot of things/creating new precedence, which is scary.

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                              • #45
                                Actually, the executive branch cannot create an agency according to the constitution unless it's directly related to his very few powers. Congress can only create agencies to further their 18 enumerated powers.

                                The Constitution is clear.

                                All firearms legislation is unconstitutional. From the NFA to concealed carry permits, it's unconstitutional.
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