Houston deputy gunned down while fueling in uniform

[Cooter]

FWIW, I'm sorta playing devil's advocate here as I have typically taken a "non-union/unions had their time, that time is over" stance

But... in skilled trades there is a powerful argument for unions that I'm starting to extend to other facets of the workforce in my own mind.

corporate power can do a lot of good... it can also be corrupt and hurt a lot of people...

the same can be said for unions

the pendulum always swings

[CexMashean]

I don't get it. Did a union shoot the deputy?

[Tremor14]

I can only speak to skilled trade unions, but I agree.

FWIW, I'm sorta playing devil's advocate here as I have typically taken a "non-union/unions had their time, that time is over" stance

But... in skilled trades there is a powerful argument for unions that I'm starting to extend to other facets of the workforce in my own mind.

corporate power can do a lot of good... it can also be corrupt and hurt a lot of people...

the same can be said for unions

the pendulum always swings

[abecx]

corporate power can do a lot of good... it can also be corrupt and hurt a lot of people...

the same can be said for unions

the pendulum always swings

I think this is the next phase of our growth as a society, to get over the notion of us versus them. Its taken me a long time to get to that point, to place my own preconceived notions with right or wrong from my own limited viewpoint and to place my self on the other side of the equation. Even just talking out loud about this topic has already started to make me come more at ease with unions.

[Cooter]

I think unions are still around for the same reasons that they formed originally, employers taking ridiculous advantage of employees. Maybe not to the same level of degree as it once was, but its still an issue. However, I am more apt to put that on the person and not the company at this point at least in the cases I have been through in my life.

You have also had the opportunity to catch/ride a well timed wave in technological advance. Which is awesome.

there is an ever-elusive happy medium between slave wages and fairyland utopian rainbow stew for those who aren't as intelligent as people like you.

[Cooter]

I think this is the next phase of our growth as a society, to get over the notion of us versus them. Its taken me a long time to get to that point, to place my own preconceived notions with right or wrong from my own limited viewpoint and to place my self on the other side of the equation. Even just talking out loud about this topic has already started to make me come more at ease with unions.

right there with ya...

and I don't think it's anything they're putting in the water because I have a 400ft deep well

[CexMashean]

So corporations killed the deputy? Or was it unions?

I'm so confused.

[mstng86]

I think this is the next phase of our growth as a society, to get over the notion of us versus them. Its taken me a long time to get to that point, to place my own preconceived notions with right or wrong from my own limited viewpoint and to place my self on the other side of the equation. Even just talking out loud about this topic has already started to make me come more at ease with unions.

we won't all unite as one until the aliens come and try to take over our world.


its just the truth

[mstng86]

So corporations killed the deputy? Or was it unions?

I'm so confused.

Aliens

[Craizie]

I think unions are still around for the same reasons that they formed originally, employers taking ridiculous advantage of employees. Maybe not to the same level of degree as it once was, but its still an issue. However, I am more apt to put that on the person and not the company at this point at least in the cases I have been through in my life.

I'm with you on this one. It is nearly impossible to get fired from USPS. A person I know, we'll call him John, has been in several at fault wrecks in the company vehicle with nearly no draw backs. He's been fired every single time, but the union fights it and he ends up getting rehired with back pay.

[CexMashean]

Aliens

The shooter was a mexican working for unions? Or corporations?

[bcoop]

has the 2nd amendment?

You're comparing apples to paperclips.


Did I wake up in an alternate dimension today? Your argument makes as much sense as lincolnboy speaking about calculus.

[Cooter]

the right for people to band together to request more money/better working conditions no longer exists because working conditions and pay scale are "pretty decent these days"?

should we get rid of the right to keep and bear arms because the Brits are no longer lobbing cannon balls at the shore line?

the reason we don't need unions is because we have them...

same way we don't need the 2nd amendment because we have it...

is that such an enormously flawed leap in logic?

can I get a weigh-in from some braniac types? I'll take my spanking if I've earned it

[Cooter]

people are lazy and can't get fired from the post office despite being inept...

people walk up and shoot police officers with legally procured guns...

therefore dissolve all unions and abolish the 2nd amendment?

[CexMashean]

Wait, now it was a mexican 2nd amendment that killed the deputy?