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Originally posted by Cooter View Postyou're right... she couldn't have done anything. we should just outlaw guns!
Originally posted by GhostTX View PostWhy does she need a purse to be armed? And what's age have to do with it? And I already mentioned skill set. We can agree everyone was focused on the interview, but once shots were fired, you can react after that. I'm not assuming she was at yellow condition. It's obvious they were all at white. But the shooter was focused on the interviewer. He fired three rounds at her before she ran and then he continued to shoot at her while she ran. That's plenty of time for the interviewee to react and draw before the shooter turned on the cameraman.
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Originally posted by BLAKE View PostWho said anything about that? I certainly don't have a problem with guns. If all good people were carrying, it would be a better, safer world.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying that the number of menopausal ladies with no hand bag in the world that are ready, willing and able to draw down on an attacker is probably in the single digits if at all. I'm talking likelihood, not "what if Rambo's mom was the lady being interviewed"."Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey
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Originally posted by GhostTX View PostCooter and I both said "if she was armed". So whether she had a purse or not is irrelevant. And if she was armed, she had some type of exposure to guns and also already made up her mind to not being a victim (hence being armed). So, again, I'll argue if she was armed, both she and the cameraman might still be alive. At least the odds would have greatly changed and the shooter would now be shot at instead of being able to calmly shoot at them.
From where does she produce a firearm in this situation? She doesn't have a purse, which is where the vast majority of women keep such a thing.
Is she supposed to be sporting a holster and belt on live TV as a tourism spokesperson?
Does she have some sort of sexy thigh holster?
Or is this the kind of situation grounded in reality where even the most prepared person just doesn't have a recourse because of a unique situation?
I would argue the latter. Arguing that she's somehow going to magically produce a gun and go all "stop or my mom will shoot" on the attacker just isn't realistic. Suggesting that that is at all within the realm of possibility hurts your credibility.
If it makes any difference, I certainly ain't mad, I just don't understand your position. I would agree with it most times, but given the video evidence, I fail to see where this lady had any opportunity to pull a gun and change the situation.
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this was an ambush . no reaction time no defense . could have just as easily stabbed them to death. had she had a gun she would have never cleared leather . sad but true .
now had someone else saw him approaching with a gun and they were armed could have been different story .
blake, my school teacher bride pie plates with a 38 snub nose at 50 ft..... just saying .
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Originally posted by bubbaearl View Postblake, my school teacher bride pie plates with a 38 snub nose at 50 ft..... just saying .
I'm just talking about this particular instance.
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Originally posted by BLAKE View PostThese are lovely "ifs", but let's talk realistically for a second. Where is that lady packin' heat in that interview, theoretically speaking? Let's say she has exposure to guns, and has also made up her mind not to be a victim. She has a CHL, she has a handgun everywhere she goes.
From where does she produce a firearm in this situation? She doesn't have a purse, which is where the vast majority of women keep such a thing.
Is she supposed to be sporting a holster and belt on live TV as a tourism spokesperson?
Does she have some sort of sexy thigh holster?
Or is this the kind of situation grounded in reality where even the most prepared person just doesn't have a recourse because of a unique situation?
I would argue the latter. Arguing that she's somehow going to magically produce a gun and go all "stop or my mom will shoot" on the attacker just isn't realistic. Suggesting that that is at all within the realm of possibility hurts your credibility.
If it makes any difference, I certainly ain't mad, I just don't understand your position. I would agree with it most times, but given the video evidence, I fail to see where this lady had any opportunity to pull a gun and change the situation.
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Last edited by GhostTX; 08-27-2015, 04:56 PM."Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey
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Originally posted by BLAKE View PostWho said anything about that? I certainly don't have a problem with guns. If all good people were carrying, it would be a better, safer world.
but the point is she/they never had a chance because they weren't armed
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