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[davbrucas]

https://soundcloud.com/bill-cooke/fbi-shootout-april-11-1986

I remember this when it happened...this shootout is what led to the militarization of law enforcement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

Made for TV movie shootout...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dUCT-qO3c

Platt was the one who killed both FBI agents, and he had to be shot 12 times before he died.

He was shot in the right arm/upper chest, the right thigh, the left foot, the right forearm, and again in the right arm/chest before he even killed an agent.

I don't blame them for increasing the stopping power of their weapons and ammunition.

[Chili]

I noticed a huge push after the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout as well. Prior to that (at least in CA) almost no patrol officers had rifles. Just pistols and shotguns.

[red89notch]

Almost 3 full months before I was born so I don't remember but I remember the Hollywood shootout. I remember coming home from school and watching it live on the news. It was amazing.

[BlackGT]

The FBI shootout led to the adoption of the 10mm as their issued caliber sidearm. Not so much the militarization of the local police forces. The LA bank robbery, in my opinion, had a lot more to do with it since they had to raid local gun shops to get AR15's to have equal firepower.

[GrayStangGT]

I was 11 months old, didn't the samething happen in LA with some guys with body armor and the cops had to borrow better guns from a local gun store.

[Big A]

Look up one post.

[Denny]

[Rick Modena]

That wasn't real, that was the a scene from the movie HEAT with Bob DeNiro and Al Pacino...

[Baba Ganoush]

I remember the Hollywood shoot out in '97. Those guys fired over 3000 rounds and were both shot at least 30 times. The widow of one of the perps sued LAPD over the delayed medical response. It was dismissed.

Crazy scene. I think that one incident had more influence in up-arming LEOs more than any other.

[Craizie]

I remember the Hollywood shoot out in '97. Those guys fired over 3000 rounds and were both shot at least 30 times. The widow of one of the perps sued LAPD over the delayed medical response. It was dismissed.

Crazy scene. I think that one incident had more influence in up-arming LEOs more than any other.

I don't mind them rolling with SEMI auto ar15's, but I don't think they should be armed with anything the average citizen can't own.

[Baba Ganoush]

I don't mind them rolling with SEMI auto ar15's, but I don't think they should be armed with anything the average citizen can't own.

Yeah I agree. I think the mraps and other tacticool shit came mostly post-9/11, even post '03 when many troops returning from the Middle East were joining the ranks, asking for more shit, ready to treat US citizens like hajis.

[Chili]

Yeah I agree. I think the mraps and other tacticool shit came mostly post-9/11, even post '03 when many troops returning from the Middle East were joining the ranks, asking for more shit, ready to treat US citizens like hajis.

It has been, but not so much because of the veterans joining the police force (imo) but because we built way up during the Iraq war, and what they are getting now is the surplus from the draw down.

[helosailor]

That wasn't real, that was the a scene from the movie HEAT with Bob DeNiro and Al Pacino...

Best movie shootout ever, and the only reason you would need to justify a badass surround sound system.

[SS Junk]

I noticed a huge push after the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout as well. Prior to that (at least in CA) almost no patrol officers had rifles. Just pistols and shotguns.

i thought it also had to do with a push for law enforcement having the ability to carry fully auto rifles.