9 dead in Waco

[silverranger]

Im not sure if you have ever had a car impounded, but you can usually get it out before you get out of jail. I also dont see anyone who owns an impound lot not realizing how silly it would be to try to charge the bandido's any type of outrageous fee, for fear of their lives/property.

Never had a car inpounded so dont know anything about it.
But i highly doubt they give a fuck about what gang owns the bike, they are going to make money on this (just my opionon )

[silverranger]

There is a whole lot of that being reported now that names have been released. Christian MCs, Veteran MCs, etc. I'm betting Waco PD has some lawsuits coming their way.


This whole situation is very odd. Patel and Chalak Mitra got railroaded by the WPD, media, and Twin Peaks. The guy owns in excess of 250 restaurants. I question whether he had any knowledge of this at all, or if all of the statements coming from Waco Police were in regards to store management staff. VSeems many innocent bikers got railroaded by the police. I'm still curious if any bikers actually fired at police, because witnesses have claimed they didn't. Of course, I wouldn't expect the police to tell the truth about any of this, especially since it is in National News.

I 100% agree, where are the videos at?
I highly doubt these guys shot at the cops, but i am betting the cops heard pew pew pew and thought it was directed toward them.

[phaux]

I really want to know how much they are going to charge in storage fees and what not lol, just like you said they will be sitting there for awhile.

Impound fees are state mandated, i.e. the state has a cap on what an impound lot can charge for the hookup, tow, and storage fees. Thus, pretty much all lots charge the same. The first day is not cheap with the cost of the tow and then it's around $20/day after that I want to say. Pretty sure someone can get the vehicle out for them but they have to show proof of ownership and insurance.

I wouldn't want to be the impound lot that has to deal with 100+ pissed off bikers from different gangs showing up and then even more pissed when they see each other and get the bill.

[silverranger]

Impound fees are state mandated, i.e. the state has a cap on what an impound lot can charge for the hookup, tow, and storage fees. Thus, pretty much all lots charge the same. The first day is not cheap with the cost of the tow and then it's around $20/day after that I want to say. Pretty sure someone can get the vehicle out for them but they have to show proof of ownership and insurance.

I wouldn't want to be the impound lot that has to deal with 100+ pissed off bikers from different gangs showing up and then even more pissed when they see each other and get the bill.

I didnt know that, I figured they did whatever they wanted.

So maybe a round 2 haha

[Binky]

I'm still curious if any bikers actually fired at police, because witnesses have claimed they didn't. Of course, I wouldn't expect the police to tell the truth about any of this, especially since it is in National News.

An active shooter is an active shooter regardless of their target.

If there are shots fired, and then someone joins in by either drawing a weapon or firing, then things become really simple.

[1carcrazyguy]

I 100% agree, where are the videos at?
I highly doubt these guys shot at the cops, but i am betting the cops heard pew pew pew and thought it was directed toward them.

If the cops shot hear gun fire. It is their job to take out that threat even if the gun fire was not aimed for the LE.

[bcoop]

An active shooter is an active shooter regardless of their target.

If there are shots fired, and then someone joins in by either drawing a weapon or firing, then things become really simple.

Yes, but where is the evidence of shots fired? All we have is the police chief's word. And we all know Cops don't like to dress up and play army, and they never, ever shoot prematurely.

[Tremor14]

But what if the undercover cop/biker, fired the first shot?

[BP]

You also need to prove ownership to get a vehicle out of impound. That's going to be a big problem when you sign ownership over to the club in order to join. That and I have a feeling a good portion of them are going to have frames that don't match the engines or may have been built custom. If you can't prove ownership of every VIN that might be on the bike you'll have a hard time getting it back.

Not to mention that the police may have disassembled many of them as part of an investigation. They generally don't put things back together properly if at all.

Yeah it sucks for anyone that happened to show up and get arrested but there were way more than 170 people riding motorcycles through Waco on Sunday, they didn't arrest everyone.

[Binky]

It doesn't matter - Nobody had to shoot first - that's not a requirement for deadly force.

if someone draws a weapon, they don't have to have used it to be subject for deadly force.

If the situation has 200 people in a fight and they are mostly armed, deadly force is an option.

The cops put a stop to what was basically a riot. That was their job.

[BMCSean]

But what if the undercover cop/biker, fired the first shot?

Never!

[silverranger]

If the cops shot hear gun fire. It is their job to take out that threat even if the gun fire was not aimed for the LE.

oh i know, I was being a smartass, i will be interested to see how many were killed by a cop.

[silverranger]

You also need to prove ownership to get a vehicle out of impound. That's going to be a big problem when you sign ownership over to the club in order to join. That and I have a feeling a good portion of them are going to have frames that don't match the engines or may have been built custom. If you can't prove ownership of every VIN that might be on the bike you'll have a hard time getting it back.

Not to mention that the police may have disassembled many of them as part of an investigation. They generally don't put things back together properly if at all.

Yeah it sucks for anyone that happened to show up and get arrested but there were way more than 170 people riding motorcycles through Waco on Sunday, they didn't arrest everyone.

Just asking cause i dont know shit about tow yards, but do they really check all that? or is just pay me and get your shit

[BP]

Just asking cause i dont know shit about tow yards, but do they really check all that? or is just pay me and get your shit

If you get towed for a parking violation it's usually a private company so they just want their money. When it's a police impound and involved in a crime it can be a pain in the ass.

Most of those bikes are considered as evidence so they aren't going anywhere until they've been processed. If they were possibly purchased with profits from crime they could be seized, or if there are any altered or mismatched VINs they might also be seized.

I have a feeling most of them are going to be crushed.

[mschmoyer]

Yes, but where is the evidence of shots fired? All we have is the police chief's word. And we all know Cops don't like to dress up and play army, and they never, ever shoot prematurely.

5 minutes of ballistics investigation will prove some shots were not coming from the police. No innocent bystanders injured. Only members from the two fighting gangs killed. Blood found in the bathroom where the police were not. Plenty of speculation defending the police actions out there. None of that is from police statements.

After the fight broke out, I don't see how it could have been handled any better by the police.