What would DFWM do?

[LANTIRN]

There is someone in my company doing the exact same job as me and getting paid significantly higher, almost $10 more per hour. He negotiated "better" than I did a while back, so he earned the extra money. I do not feel bad or angry about it. Good for him. However in this particular situation the way he negotiated has likely put him at the top of the list for layoffs, and we are an oil company, so there is that. Sometimes it is good to accept a lower wage than you think you deserve during negotiations and be nice about it. I am now viewed by some management as much easier to work with largely due to that, so now I am in a better position during a time of layoffs in the industry. My point, though, was he negotiated better so good on him. Don't be a sourpuss.

[asphaltjunkie]

A part time pee on makes more than you do in a management position with 4 years experience!? Then you're well underpaid, time for a big raise, or a new job. I'd probably go ahead and find the new job, then give the current boss the ultimatum.

This.

[asphaltjunkie]

He makes more than you two hourly or yearly?

Hourly.

[Ruffdaddy]

I'm interviewing for a better job tomorrow morning, that's what I'm doing.


Sales is a tad different, but I've been on a kick for the last few months to hammer home the fact that I'm bringing in $X a year in revenue every time we have a commission and/or attainment discussion, and every time I get "I know, I'll see what I can do." At the end of the day your and my only recourse is to leave, if they don't want to make it right. It sucks 'cause I love my team and my clients, and would rather stay on, but they're forcing my hand.

On the other hand, is it you "bringing in" XX a year, or the product and support? Can they plug someone else in and maintain the same revenue long term? Its never how much you "bring in"...its how much your sales outpace market growth, how much more market cap you gathered...or how you're the direct reason for increasing sales. I'm sure customer support can claim they maintained the customer base and kept them happy, engineering can say its their excellent design work...yada yada yada.

I don't know either way with you... But I imagine you actually are really good at your job based on your history. I'm responding more based on my interactions with sales folks in O&G when rig counts were climbing faster than we could possibly sell stuff...and they think its them that's great instead of double digit growth in the market.

[Gasser64]

I may be way off here, but is the company Autozone? They've been known to do stuff like this.

[Big A]

On the other hand, is it you "bringing in" XX a year, or the product and support? Can they plug someone else in and maintain the same revenue long term? Its never how much you "bring in"...its how much your sales outpace market growth, how much more market cap you gathered...or how you're the direct reason for increasing sales. I'm sure customer support can claim they maintained the customer base and kept them happy, engineering can say its their excellent design work...yada yada yada.

I don't know either way with you... But I imagine you actually are really good at your job based on your history. I'm responding more based on my interactions with sales folks in O&G when rig counts were climbing faster than we could possibly sell stuff...and they think its them that's great instead of double digit growth in the market.

Our market as a whole has been pretty stable YOY, we do see fluctuations, but they are miniscule compared to what you see in O&G. If it comes down to it, I am fully confident that I can bring my client base with me to a competitor, and continue to grow it. Due to the contractual nature of our business though, it would take a few years, which is why I'm hesitant to do it just yet, and have been willing to give them a chance to do what's right (our company just got sold, which has put a major wrench in the timeline). My market share (independent of market growth) has grown every year since I came on board, as a direct result of what I do. I don't have a big head about it, but I am absolutely justified in feeling that I am worth more to the company than what they pay me currently, and have had several people up the food chain wholeheartedly agree. This is not based on what anyone else does or makes, and is based solely on my performance as it relates to increasing revenue.

There's a reason that I am interviewing for a top position with the #1 company in my business tomorrow, and it's not because I've been surfing a market wave the last few years. If I, for whatever reason, don't get this one, the recruiter said she's got me on their short list, so it's only a matter of time 'til then next ship comes in.

All that pomp, and I can still feel the nerves building...

[asphaltjunkie]

I may be way off here, but is the company Autozone? They've been known to do stuff like this.

Close. If only Eric was still posting....

[slow99]

Knowing co-worker comp is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it's good to know. On the other, it makes you feel really disappointed at times. We are a small, very close group and we all know what each other makes - b/c my boss left the spreadsheet out on his desk one day months ago while we had several meetings in his office.

Two weeks ago I found out my '14 bonus and should have been extremely happy with it. It was the biggest one I've received and was almost 100% of my base. But, we all shared and others got more than me so I ended up feeling like shit and questioning myself for a couple days. It made me decide to start looking around and networking again, but jobs in my field are extremely hard to come by in Dallas so it could be months before I get even a lead.

[txstangnut]

hell everybody makes more than me on my job. Thus the trappings of a lowly government worker. To make matters worse everyone's salary is public information.

[YALE]

Seriously. Get the Rosetta Stone Spanish program, and learn to Spanish

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[FastFox]

Under Paid

Do something on your own. If you work for yourself, and if you survive 6 months........you will never work for anyone else in your life. Trust me, that is a fact.

[whitetrash]

I make more at the end of the year than people 2 positions above me. Just because one person gets paid x amounts means everyone does.

[lincolnboy]

I would rather quit then ask for more money. Hell they may just let you go when you ask for more money.

[Denny]

It doesn't matter if you're happy with your pay prior to knowing someone you think produces less than u you makes more. It is a matter of knowing the company values that person more AND is willing to pay more (or at least confirms you as undervalued).

I'd seriously have a heart to heart and shoot straight with a WTF to the powers that be.

[HECDOGGIE]

He's a better negotiator than you - bottom line .