No thread on the Germanwings A320 copilot that augered in on purpose?!

[46Tbird]

If you're referring to the odds of dying in flight vs a car crash, I understand. But I also like the idea of having at least a slim chance of survival via reaction, instead of being completely dependent on the (suicidal?) Pilot flying me around

The result is that we focus on the one-in-a-million bogeyman while virtually ignoring the true risks that inhabit our world. News coverage of a shark attack can clear beaches all over the country, even though sharks kill a grand total of about one American annually, on average. That is less than the death count from cattle, which gore or stomp 20 Americans per year. Drowning, on the other hand, takes 3,400 lives a year, without a single frenzied call for mandatory life vests to stop the carnage. A whole industry has boomed around conquering the fear of flying, but while we down beta-blockers in coach, praying not to be one of the 48 average annual airline casualties, we typically give little thought to driving to the grocery store, even though there are more than 30,000 automobile fatalities each year.

http://discovermagazine.com/2011/jul-aug/11-what-you-dont-know-can-kill-you

[racrguy]

The co-pilot did it? BAN PILOTS!

[2011GT]

No kidding. At least I somewhat have control, unlike these poor souls.


So, just curious, US domestic flights have to have 2 people in the cockpit at all times during the flight?

No. Pilots have to piss and shit also. The remaining pilot will usually wear his o2 mask.

[lowthreeohz]

http://discovermagazine.com/2011/jul...w-can-kill-you

I get it, I guess its just more of a control thing than any logical reason. And fuck sharks!

[RabidJackal]

No kidding. At least I somewhat have control, unlike these poor souls.


So, just curious, US domestic flights have to have 2 people in the cockpit at all times during the flight?

YES. Any flight inside the U.S., leaving the U.S., or entering the U.S.

2011GT is incorrect. U.S. FAA Regulations REQUIRE at least TWO people on the flight crew to be present in the cockpit at all times while the plane is under power.

If the Pilot or Co-Pilot have to use the bathroom they must have one of the other crew members on the flight be inside the cockpit while they use the restroom or whatever else they might be doing.

[93LXHORSE]

I'm sorry that it happened, but I am already getting sick of CNN's ad nauseam coverage of it!

[CexMashean]

I'm sorry that it happened, but I am already getting sick of CNN's ad nauseam coverage of it!

You should probably stop watching CNN anyways.

[diablo rojo]

You should probably stop watching CNN anyways.

This

[1carcrazyguy]

CNN = Constant Negative News

[Sgt Beavis]

You should probably stop watching CNN anyways.

Add Fox and MSNBC to that list. I'm sick of all of them. But CNN is the worst. Putting aside the political slants, the way they cover major events just annoys the hell out of me.

Fox and MSNBC aren't much better, but mainly because the put too much effort in putting a political focus on every story. I'm just kinda sick of it all.

[Mach1]

It's ironic the fortified cockpit door designed to keep the bad guys out ended up keeping the good guy out and cost all of those lives.

[CexMashean]

[Ruffdaddy]

It's ironic the fortified cockpit door designed to keep the bad guys out ended up keeping the good guy out and cost all of those lives.

I'd like to know who made the decision to incorporate such a system without adopting the same 2 person law as the US.

[RabidJackal]

I'd like to know who made the decision to incorporate such a system without adopting the same 2 person law as the US.

Exactly.

The idiocy of the Europeans and their failure to adopt the 2 person in the cockpit rule is what killed these people, not the door or the systems that control it.

I understand that you can't have a worldwide blanket set of rules and regulations for every single thing in regards to flight, but this seems like one that can be easily implemented and should have been in place way before this.

Now it's coming out that the guy had some medical problems with depression, hid his medical issues from his employer, and had recently broken up with his girlfriend.

The doctor who was providing him treatment obviously now is going to have some legal issues in his near future. How someone could not report that to his employer is beyond me.

[GhostTX]

And now, reports of his conversion to Islam:

An article which appeared today in the German magazine, PI-News, reports that during a six-month break from his job with Germanwings, co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, the man now accused of hijacking and crashing the 320 Airbus into the French Alps, killing all 150 aboard, converted to Islam.

An English translation of Michael Mannheimer’s article follows:
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All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.

Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, “Islamic Scholars”) will agree to assign this an act of a “mentally unstable” man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.
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Of course, the pilot could be heard pounding on the cockpit door, which Lubitz had apparently locked from the inside.

Police have removed what they call a “significant piece of evidence” from Lubitz’s home in Montabaur, Germany, but will not say what is was.

http://universalfreepress.com/report-germanwings-co-pilot-recent-convert-islam/