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    Fucking awesome. That's one hell of a tailwind.



    Mark Piggott
    January 11, 2015 11:08 GMT


    A British Airways Boeing 777-200 has recorded the fastest transatlantic crossing by a subsonic passenger plane after freak weather conditions helped it break the sound barrier, and travel at ground speeds of up to 745mph.

    BA Flight 114 between New York and London "surfed" on an unusually fast jetstream to make the flight in just 5 hours 16 minutes on Wednesday, an hour-and-a-half ahead of schedule.
    The only plane to make the crossing quicker is Concorde, which made the journey in 2 hours 52 minutes in 1996.

    Eastbound flights often have up to an hour clipped by the jetstream, which is usually at a similar altitude to that of a cruising plane, but pilots must be skilled to ride them as they are usually 10 miles across and 2,000 feet in depth. However, currently the jetstream is unusually wide as well as being much faster than usual – around 250mph compared to the norm of 100mph.

    "It's just like surfing. It's extraordinary how fast you can go," said former BA pilot Alastair Rosenschein who regularly flew 747s on the same route. "You try to sit in the core of the jet where it's not too turbulent and where you can pick up some free mileage. It's not unusual to get 100mph tailwinds, but they have got more than that. This must be a record."

    Jetstreams are caused by the rotation of the earth and heat from the sun and global warming is thought to play a factor. The unusually quick jetstream – which is also causing storms in the UK – is the result of freezing air in the US colliding with warmer air from the south.

    Jetstreams often intensify in winter, with a corresponding impact on flight times. Pilots stress that even at speeds approaching the speed of sound, modern jumbo jets can easily cope with the increased stress. Planes flying west have to avoid the jetstreams, adding time to the journey towards the US.

    Visualization of the jet stream on Jan. 8, 2015, showing a swath of 200 knot winds blowing across the North Atlantic, affecting flights.






  • #2
    It's like an air treadmill.

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    • #3
      lmfao


      I guess there's a little debate on the supersonic part. 745mph is VERY close to 761 (ground level mach), but not quite there... but either way, holy shit.

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      • #4
        For a commercial airliner that is just plain fast. And how come this has never happened to me on my flights? I guess I need to leave on time for once.

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        • #5
          I think when I fly they like to get into it going head on.

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          • #6
            The best way to describe what it did (IMO) would be as "traveled at supersonic speeds". For an aircraft, it's ground speed isn't what determines whether it breaks the sound barrier. Forward airspeed and density altitude are the two biggest factors. The time to distance was impressive, but it didn't technically go supersonic.
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            • #7
              The aircraft's airspeed wasn't even close to breaking the speed of sound...

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              • #8
                yeah...the plane itself was only experiencing the force of about 500mph flight...which while fast..is about average for a 777-200.

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                • #9
                  but.... the treadmill...

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                  • #10
                    The problem with UN-forecast tailwinds is it will throw off your arrival time(early) This means that most likely on a flight of this length you will be too heavy to land. On all flights max take-off weight is predicated on max landing weight + the fuel burn. Early arrival means overweight. I have had to dump fuel in the situation before. If dumping is prohibited, we circle until the fuel is burned off.
                    The flight management system will show us too heavy to land hours out. In that situation we just descend to a lower altitude to burn more fuel off. The higher we fly, the more efficient the motors are on fuel. Sometimes the weather precludes us from an early decent(thunderstorms/icing).

                    The airspeed remains the same with a tailwind or not, only the ground-speed increases. Fuel burn is predicated on ground-speed. The aircraft was never near the speed of sound.

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                    • #11
                      Give me a fox and 5k.. LOL

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by likeitfast55 View Post
                        The problem with UN-forecast tailwinds is it will throw off your arrival time(early) This means that most likely on a flight of this length you will be too heavy to land. On all flights max take-off weight is predicated on max landing weight + the fuel burn. Early arrival means overweight. I have had to dump fuel in the situation before. If dumping is prohibited, we circle until the fuel is burned off.
                        The flight management system will show us too heavy to land hours out. In that situation we just descend to a lower altitude to burn more fuel off. The higher we fly, the more efficient the motors are on fuel. Sometimes the weather precludes us from an early decent(thunderstorms/icing).

                        The airspeed remains the same with a tailwind or not, only the ground-speed increases. Fuel burn is predicated on ground-speed. The aircraft was never near the speed of sound.

                        But that is accounted for in the fuel load, we have been putting on 15,000-20,000 less kilos per flight on the way back.
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                        • #13
                          Another benefit of global warming.

                          What the article failed to mention. "Despite making the trek an hour and a half ahead of its scheduled time, the flight still arrived at the gate 15 minutes late as it sat on the tarmac waiting for an available gate to open up".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bucky View Post
                            Another benefit of global warming.

                            What the article failed to mention. "Despite making the trek an hour and a half ahead of its scheduled time, the flight still arrived at the gate 15 minutes late as it sat on the tarmac waiting for an available gate to open up".
                            True story. I hate when they do that. Pilots like "WOOT WOOT 30 minutes EARLY!" then you sit around for 30 minutes anyways.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MustangPoser View Post
                              True story. I hate when they do that. Pilots like "WOOT WOOT 30 minutes EARLY!" then you sit around for 30 minutes anyways.
                              Or worse is when you have gond through passport control, have your bags and have to wait for the homeland guys to staff their fat asses in the seats to take your customs forms. "Your flights (3 international flights landed early) weren't expected for another 45 minutes. They don't have to open the booths until then." Cock suckers.
                              Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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