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  • The new Pope is a bada$$.

    Regardless of what your personal beliefs are, this guy has finally brought some needed accountability to the Vatican. Hope this guy is around for many more years; I love reading about what he is accomplishing.


    VATICAN CITY (RNS) — Pope Francis launched a blistering attack on the Vatican bureaucracy Monday, outlining a "catalog of illnesses" that plague the church's central administration, including "spiritual Alzheimer's" and gossipy cliques.

    The pope's traditional Christmas greeting to the cardinals, bishops and priests who run the Holy See was less an exchange of warm wishes than a laundry list of what the pontiff called the "ailments of the Curia" that he wants to cure.

    In a critique that left many of the assembled clerics clearly uncomfortable, the 15 ailments in Francis' "catalog of illnesses" reflected the take-no-prisoners approach he promised when he was elected nearly two years ago as an outsider with little direct experience in Rome.

    "The Curia is called upon to improve itself, always improve itself and grow in communion, holiness and knowledge to fully realize its mission," the pope said.

    "Yet like every body, like every human body, it is exposed to illnesses, malfunctioning, infirmity. They are illnesses and temptations that weaken our service to God."

    In a separate address to Vatican staff later, Francis begged pardon for the "shortcomings" of senior church leaders, as well as the "several scandals" that had "caused so much harm," without specifying which scandals he had in mind.

    The pope denounced the lust for power of ladder-climbing clerics, those who indulge in hypocritical double lives, and lamented a sense of "spiritual Alzheimer's" that leads clerics to forget the joy that is supposed to animate their lives.

    He also attacked what he called "existential schizophrenia" and the "terrorism of gossip." He was especially critical of cliques that "enslave their members and become a cancer that threatens the harmony of the body," eventually leading to death by "friendly fire."

    "These and other maladies and temptations," Francis said, "are a danger for every Christian and for any administrative organization, community, congregation, parish, ecclesial movement, etc., and can strike at both the individual and the corporate level."

    The pope signaled early on that he aimed to overhaul and upend the church's institutional culture. Now 78, many had expected Francis to have a relatively short term in office, but he seems intent on using whatever time to set policies in ways that will outlive his papacy.

    Francis has previously criticized the careerism and power intrigues that afflict those who work inside the Vatican. In elevating his first round of cardinals earlier this year, he warned the new princes of the church that they should not imagine they had joined a "royal court."

    After firing a German bishop who spent $43 million on a grand new residential complex, Francis demoted a leading American conservative, Cardinal Raymond Burke, from the church's highest court. Burke is known for hard-line dogmatism, elaborate vestments and, most importantly, for opposing major aspects of Francis' reform agenda.

    As he and senior cardinals press ahead with controversial financial and administrative reforms, the pope seemed even more outspoken as he highlighted his concerns about the institution.

    "It's nice to think of the Roman Curia as a little model church, that is a body that every day seeks to become more unified and harmonious," the pope said.

    "In reality the Curia is a complex body … with different elements that don't have the same job, but are coordinated to work in an exemplary, disciplined effective way, despite the cultural and linguistic diversity of its members."

    Francis, the first pope from Latin America, never worked in the Italian-dominated Curia before he was elected in March 2013 after the shocking resignation of his predecessor, Benedict XVI. The final months of Benedict's pontificate were overshadowed by the so-called "Vatileaks" scandal in which Benedict's personal butler leaked sensitive documents alleging corruption in the Curia.

    Francis is also the first Jesuit pope, and his outsiders' critique reflects the sometimes tense relations between Rome and the church's largest religious order, which often chafes at orders from church headquarters.

    The pope's address reportedly startled assembled members of the Curia. Few were smiling as Francis ticked off his diagnosis, complete with footnotes and biblical references.

    At the end of his speech, he asked the prelates to pray that the "wounds of the sins that each one of us carries are healed" so that the Church and Curia itself are made healthy.




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      No one uses that shithole forum.

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        I think there's some really shady shit going on in the Roman Catholic Church, but I like this Pope.

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          I bet some of the cardinals are regretting electing this guy, he has no problem calling them out on their hypocrisy and seems to genuinely care about people.

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              Originally posted by racrguy View Post
              I think there's some really shady shit going on in the Roman Catholic Church, but I like this Pope.
              I think any Catholic with half a brain would agree with this fully. It's no different than US politics, but I'd like to see if a Pope can actually make things better in a relatively short period of time.
              Originally posted by MR EDD
              U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                I bet some of the cardinals are regretting electing this guy, he has no problem calling them out on their hypocrisy and seems to genuinely care about people.
                Yeah no doubt his speech was directed at some of the people that put him in. But those people probably also saw that the previous pope (Benedict XVI) wasn't working and was making the Church more divisive.

                Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                I think any Catholic with half a brain would agree with this fully. It's no different than US politics, but I'd like to see if a Pope can actually make things better in a relatively short period of time.
                But the pope isn't restrained by re-election concerns. He's there for life if he wants to be. The previous pope was the fist to abdicate his position since 1294. The rest remained pope until they died. Francis is 78 right now. Who knows how much time he has left on this earth.

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                • #9
                  There is a theology forum?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jefehbk View Post
                    There is a theology forum?

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                      They acknowledge aliens. Thats about all I know.
                      WH

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
                        They acknowledge aliens. Thats about all I know.
                        You got that right.

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