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  • #16
    Originally posted by kingjason View Post
    DEALER AND CONVERTER
    PLATES & TEMPORARY
    TAGS
    One of the privileges of having a dealer or
    converter’s license is the ability to use metal
    plates on your inventory vehicles. One of the
    responsibilities of a licensee is to make sure
    plates are accounted for at all times. Also,
    knowing the different rules for the different
    tags will make life simpler for you and your
    customer. Failure to abide by these rules will
    subject a licensee to civil penalties. This
    brochure outlines the main requirements for
    dealers and converters who use metal plates
    and temporary tags.
    METAL DEALER PLATES
    Metal dealer plates are to be placed only on
    those vehicles that are in a dealer’s inventory.
    They cannot be used on any vehicle that a
    dealer is not licensed to sell. Converters may
    place metal plates on any type vehicle they are
    engaged in the business of assembling or
    modifying. The vehicle must have a current
    inspection.
    The title must be assigned or
    registered in the licensee’s name. The plates
    must be displayed in the license plate holder.
    Signs cannot be displayed on the vehicle.
    Plates may not be used on a vehicle carrying a
    load or on service or work vehicles. Vehicles
    with metal plates can be used for personal
    business.
    Most importantly, licensees are required to
    keep a log of all metal plates issued to them.
    The log must identify the metal plate number;
    the make of the vehicle; the vehicle
    identification number; and the name of the
    person in control of the vehicle. Any plates
    not in use must be kept in a secure place.
    E-TAGS
    With the advent of Vision 21 (V21), dealers
    and converters are required by law to have
    Internet access at their place of business in
    order to issue temporary tags. Specific
    numbers for temporary tags are obtained
    from V21 and tags are issued by the licensee
    either by printing out images from V21 or
    copying the number and forms from the
    images on the computer screen. All tags will
    have a unique number assigned to them by
    the V21 database. When the licensee logs on
    to V21 and receives the number after filling in
    the vehicle and buyer information, the
    number will be logged or recorded on V21 in
    a manner that will allow a licensee to locate
    the tag at any given time. Licensees have the
    ability to void tags, reprint tags if necessary
    and to manage tags by running reports from
    V21 on their own tag activity. All dealers must
    use the electronic tag feature and all sales
    must have an e-tag produced.
    All current licensed dealers and converters
    qualify for a user ID and password to access
    V21. For more detailed information about
    Vision 21 and E-tags see the TxDOT website
    at www.dmv.tx.gov.
    DEALER/CONVERTER TEMPORARY TAGS
    The dealer or converter temporary tag is an
    “in-transit” tag. It is used for demonstration
    drives; transporting vehicles for repair,
    reconditioning; transporting vehicles to or
    from the auction or another dealer; or driving
    vehicles in parades.
    The dealer and converter temporary tags may
    be used on vehicles that do not have a current
    inspection sticker. The title of the vehicle
    must be assigned or registered to the licensee.
    Unlike the metal plate, a vehicle displaying a
    dealer or converter tag may not be used for
    personal use, no matter how seemingly
    innocent. Also, like the metal plate, signs may
    not be displayed on a vehicle with a dealer or
    converter tag.
    There are two types of dealer temporary tags.
    A tag may be assigned to an agent, such as a
    salesman or transport agent or to a particular
    vehicle. The dealer may assign an expiration
    date from one to sixty days on any dealer
    temporary tag. Any number of tags may be
    assigned to any agent or to any vehicle, but
    only one tag may be assigned to any specific
    vehicle at a time.
    BUYER’S TEMPORARY TAG
    The temporary buyer’s tag is only used on
    vehicles that are sold to a retail purchaser and
    is good for 21 calendar days. The vehicle
    must have a current inspection.
    Unlike the
    metal plate and dealer temporary tags, a retail
    consumer can display signs and carry a load in
    a vehicle with a buyer’s tag.
    INTERNET DOWN TAGS
    These are special tag numbers that dealers are
    allowed to print out in advance and hold for
    emergency situations such as the Internet
    going down. These tags must be kept secured
    Uhhhhhh, that's pertaining to the metal plates that say "DEALER" on them and the paper temp plates after they're sold, not the paper temp tags that the dealers use to test drive cars and/or move them around. Allow me to quote the pertinent portion:
    DEALER/CONVERTER TEMPORARY TAGS
    The dealer or converter temporary tag is an
    “in-transit” tag. It is used for demonstration
    drives; transporting vehicles for repair,
    reconditioning; transporting vehicles to or
    from the auction or another dealer; or driving
    vehicles in parades.
    The dealer and converter temporary tags may
    be used on vehicles that do not have a current
    inspection sticker. The title of the vehicle
    must be assigned or registered to the licensee.
    Unlike the metal plate, a vehicle displaying a
    dealer or converter tag may not be used for
    personal use, no matter how seemingly
    innocent. Also, like the metal plate, signs may
    not be displayed on a vehicle with a dealer or
    converter tag.
    There are two types of dealer temporary tags.
    A tag may be assigned to an agent, such as a
    salesman or transport agent or to a particular
    vehicle. The dealer may assign an expiration
    date from one to sixty days on any dealer
    temporary tag. Any number of tags may be
    assigned to any agent or to any vehicle, but
    only one tag may be assigned to any specific
    vehicle at a time.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by kingjason View Post
      DEALER AND CONVERTER
      PLATES & TEMPORARY
      TAGS
      One of the privileges of having a dealer or
      converter’s license is the ability to use metal
      plates on your inventory vehicles. One of the
      responsibilities of a licensee is to make sure
      plates are accounted for at all times. Also,
      knowing the different rules for the different
      tags will make life simpler for you and your
      customer. Failure to abide by these rules will
      subject a licensee to civil penalties. This
      brochure outlines the main requirements for
      dealers and converters who use metal plates
      and temporary tags.
      METAL DEALER PLATES
      Metal dealer plates are to be placed only on
      those vehicles that are in a dealer’s inventory.
      They cannot be used on any vehicle that a
      dealer is not licensed to sell. Converters may
      place metal plates on any type vehicle they are
      engaged in the business of assembling or
      modifying. The vehicle must have a current
      inspection.
      The title must be assigned or
      registered in the licensee’s name. The plates
      must be displayed in the license plate holder.
      Signs cannot be displayed on the vehicle.
      Plates may not be used on a vehicle carrying a
      load or on service or work vehicles. Vehicles
      with metal plates can be used for personal
      business.
      Most importantly, licensees are required to
      keep a log of all metal plates issued to them.
      The log must identify the metal plate number;
      the make of the vehicle; the vehicle
      identification number; and the name of the
      person in control of the vehicle. Any plates
      not in use must be kept in a secure place.
      E-TAGS
      With the advent of Vision 21 (V21), dealers
      and converters are required by law to have
      Internet access at their place of business in
      order to issue temporary tags. Specific
      numbers for temporary tags are obtained
      from V21 and tags are issued by the licensee
      either by printing out images from V21 or
      copying the number and forms from the
      images on the computer screen. All tags will
      have a unique number assigned to them by
      the V21 database. When the licensee logs on
      to V21 and receives the number after filling in
      the vehicle and buyer information, the
      number will be logged or recorded on V21 in
      a manner that will allow a licensee to locate
      the tag at any given time. Licensees have the
      ability to void tags, reprint tags if necessary
      and to manage tags by running reports from
      V21 on their own tag activity. All dealers must
      use the electronic tag feature and all sales
      must have an e-tag produced.
      All current licensed dealers and converters
      qualify for a user ID and password to access
      V21. For more detailed information about
      Vision 21 and E-tags see the TxDOT website
      at www.dmv.tx.gov.
      DEALER/CONVERTER TEMPORARY TAGS
      The dealer or converter temporary tag is an
      “in-transit” tag. It is used for demonstration
      drives; transporting vehicles for repair,
      reconditioning; transporting vehicles to or
      from the auction or another dealer; or driving
      vehicles in parades.
      The dealer and converter temporary tags may
      be used on vehicles that do not have a current
      inspection sticker
      . The title of the vehicle
      must be assigned or registered to the licensee.
      Unlike the metal plate, a vehicle displaying a
      dealer or converter tag may not be used for
      personal use, no matter how seemingly
      innocent. Also, like the metal plate, signs may
      not be displayed on a vehicle with a dealer or
      converter tag.
      There are two types of dealer temporary tags.
      A tag may be assigned to an agent, such as a
      salesman or transport agent or to a particular
      vehicle. The dealer may assign an expiration
      date from one to sixty days on any dealer
      temporary tag. Any number of tags may be
      assigned to any agent or to any vehicle, but
      only one tag may be assigned to any specific
      vehicle at a time.

      BUYER’S TEMPORARY TAG
      The temporary buyer’s tag is only used on
      vehicles that are sold to a retail purchaser and
      is good for 21 calendar days. The vehicle
      must have a current inspection.
      Unlike the
      metal plate and dealer temporary tags, a retail
      consumer can display signs and carry a load in
      a vehicle with a buyer’s tag.
      INTERNET DOWN TAGS
      These are special tag numbers that dealers are
      allowed to print out in advance and hold for
      emergency situations such as the Internet
      going down. These tags must be kept secured
      "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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      • #18
        Originally posted by kingjason View Post
        DEALER AND CONVERTER
        PLATES & TEMPORARY
        TAGS


        So you pull over a 76 year old man and since he has a no/expired inspection and he starts arguing with a cop, its OK to put him in a rear naked choke, slam him to the ground and then taze him?

        Got it coach...
        Originally posted by Silverback
        Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
          The dealer and converter temporary tags may
          be used on vehicles that do not have a current
          inspection sticker. The title of the vehicle
          must be assigned or registered to the licensee.


          Who was the car titled too?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
            The dealer and converter temporary tags may
            be used on vehicles that do not have a current
            inspection sticker. The title of the vehicle
            must be assigned or registered to the licensee.


            Who was the car titled too?
            I imagine the dealer, seeing as how the article said

            Vasquez got out of the car, which is owned by the car lot, attempting to get the manager.

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            • #21
              yeah but he was Mexican.. probably in a gang too!

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
                The dealer and converter temporary tags may
                be used on vehicles that do not have a current
                inspection sticker. The title of the vehicle
                must be assigned or registered to the licensee.


                Who was the car titled too?
                the agent tags are used generally to pick up a car or take it to the shop, etc before they are for sale on the lot. EX: that car may have been just bought from the auction, and hasnt had a demonstrator tag on it.

                We have agent tags that we use for cars we are getting ready for sale so we can take them to get tires put on, inspected, etc.

                Once they are inspected and ready for sale, they have a temp tag that has the VIN and and expiration date on them printed from the state's site.

                Then when purchased, a buyers tag is created.
                "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kingjason View Post
                  DEALER AND CONVERTER
                  PLATES & TEMPORARY
                  TAGS
                  One of the privileges of having a dealer or
                  converter’s license is the ability to use metal
                  plates on your inventory vehicles. One of the
                  responsibilities of a licensee is to make sure
                  plates are accounted for at all times. Also,
                  knowing the different rules for the different
                  tags will make life simpler for you and your
                  customer. Failure to abide by these rules will
                  subject a licensee to civil penalties. This
                  brochure outlines the main requirements for
                  dealers and converters who use metal plates
                  and temporary tags.
                  METAL DEALER PLATES
                  Metal dealer plates are to be placed only on
                  those vehicles that are in a dealer’s inventory.
                  They cannot be used on any vehicle that a
                  dealer is not licensed to sell. Converters may
                  place metal plates on any type vehicle they are
                  engaged in the business of assembling or
                  modifying. The vehicle must have a current
                  inspection.
                  The title must be assigned or
                  registered in the licensee’s name. The plates
                  must be displayed in the license plate holder.
                  Signs cannot be displayed on the vehicle.
                  Plates may not be used on a vehicle carrying a
                  load or on service or work vehicles. Vehicles
                  with metal plates can be used for personal
                  business.
                  Most importantly, licensees are required to
                  keep a log of all metal plates issued to them.
                  The log must identify the metal plate number;
                  the make of the vehicle; the vehicle
                  identification number; and the name of the
                  person in control of the vehicle. Any plates
                  not in use must be kept in a secure place.
                  E-TAGS
                  With the advent of Vision 21 (V21), dealers
                  and converters are required by law to have
                  Internet access at their place of business in
                  order to issue temporary tags. Specific
                  numbers for temporary tags are obtained
                  from V21 and tags are issued by the licensee
                  either by printing out images from V21 or
                  copying the number and forms from the
                  images on the computer screen. All tags will
                  have a unique number assigned to them by
                  the V21 database. When the licensee logs on
                  to V21 and receives the number after filling in
                  the vehicle and buyer information, the
                  number will be logged or recorded on V21 in
                  a manner that will allow a licensee to locate
                  the tag at any given time. Licensees have the
                  ability to void tags, reprint tags if necessary
                  and to manage tags by running reports from
                  V21 on their own tag activity. All dealers must
                  use the electronic tag feature and all sales
                  must have an e-tag produced.
                  All current licensed dealers and converters
                  qualify for a user ID and password to access
                  V21. For more detailed information about
                  Vision 21 and E-tags see the TxDOT website
                  at www.dmv.tx.gov.
                  DEALER/CONVERTER TEMPORARY TAGS
                  The dealer or converter temporary tag is an
                  “in-transit” tag. It is used for demonstration
                  drives; transporting vehicles for repair,
                  reconditioning; transporting vehicles to or
                  from the auction or another dealer; or driving
                  vehicles in parades.
                  The dealer and converter temporary tags may
                  be used on vehicles that do not have a current
                  inspection sticker. The title of the vehicle
                  must be assigned or registered to the licensee.
                  Unlike the metal plate, a vehicle displaying a
                  dealer or converter tag may not be used for
                  personal use, no matter how seemingly
                  innocent. Also, like the metal plate, signs may
                  not be displayed on a vehicle with a dealer or
                  converter tag.
                  There are two types of dealer temporary tags.
                  A tag may be assigned to an agent, such as a
                  salesman or transport agent or to a particular
                  vehicle. The dealer may assign an expiration
                  date from one to sixty days on any dealer
                  temporary tag. Any number of tags may be
                  assigned to any agent or to any vehicle, but
                  only one tag may be assigned to any specific
                  vehicle at a time.
                  BUYER’S TEMPORARY TAG
                  The temporary buyer’s tag is only used on
                  vehicles that are sold to a retail purchaser and
                  is good for 21 calendar days. The vehicle
                  must have a current inspection.
                  Unlike the
                  metal plate and dealer temporary tags, a retail
                  consumer can display signs and carry a load in
                  a vehicle with a buyer’s tag.
                  INTERNET DOWN TAGS
                  These are special tag numbers that dealers are
                  allowed to print out in advance and hold for
                  emergency situations such as the Internet
                  going down. These tags must be kept secured
                  I hate to ruin your party here, but the police chief even admitted he didn't need a sticker due to dealer tags.
                  Originally posted by BradM
                  But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                  Originally posted by Leah
                  In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Silverback View Post
                    yeah but he was Mexican.. probably in a gang too!
                    Not enough people were stabbed, and I didn't hear "ese" come out once.

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kingjason View Post
                      ...........

                      Do not pass go, do not beat an old man with impunity...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                        I hate to ruin your party here, but the police chief even admitted he didn't need a sticker due to dealer tags.
                        Maybe the chief doesn't know the law!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
                          Maybe the chief doesn't know the law!
                          Except for the fact that the code is posted above.
                          Originally posted by BradM
                          But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                          Originally posted by Leah
                          In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by talisman View Post
                            Do not pass go, do not beat an old man with impunity...
                            Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
                            Maybe the chief doesn't know the law!
                            Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                            Except for the fact that the code is posted above.
                            Sorry I was in a hurry when I posted that, I had to go move some furniture. I was scanning over that little section from the DMV looking for the other area you guys highlighted, because I know the inspection and registration laws very well, but had to go.

                            I can not see that tag well enough to see exactly what kind of tag it is but I will tell you that most of those tags are abused like no other. It says zero personal use but people drive those things around, run errands, etc etc, like they are immune to being stopped because it says dealer tag on it. Same way with temp tags, a lot of people think that because you have a temp tag you can drive around with a expired inspection and I figured that's where Tali was going with that first sentence, and there are differences in dealer tags. Also not once did I say I agreed or disagreed with the stop, so don't assume either way. I actually just watched it enough to see the guy go to the ground with him. I didn't realize he tazed him also. It is a shame there is no audio to see why the stop went the direction it did. I will tell you that a lot of officers do not get the differences in those tags. What is really messed up is the state said about 5 years ago they were going to do some very strict enforcement on those things and that they would only issue a certain few types and in a certain way. Not sure what happened but I have seen those things printed and issued probably fifty ways.
                            Whos your Daddy?

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                            • #29
                              It is not uncommon for cops to not understand the temp tag thing. I had Rockwall Police stop me in my Mustang and swear up down I was a liar and it must have stolen paper tags, let us search your car etc. etc. They wouldn't quit until I pulled out the Tax Office Receipt with all the fine print on it.
                              1997 Miata - Weekend\Autox Car
                              1994 Mustang Cobra - Garage Shelf
                              2012 Mazda 3 - Daily

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                              • #30
                                Why is it always the schwartz get to drive around in these temp tags all the time? Is the tag tied to the vehicle? We had some little assholes driving along side us in the parking lot at Six Flags chunking pennies at our car. They had the temp tag and I wondered if it was even worth taking down to report them. They sped out of the parking lot before I could catch up to them.

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