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  • Baron Von Crowder
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    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    What he can do is accept what we give him, then save as much money as he can, and when he's 18 and graduated he can sell what we gave him, and combine that with any saved money, to buy whatever he wants.

    Our original car purchase plan was that he save up as much as possible, and we would double it. The challenge became him finding a job without a car. We don't have an extra car for him to use, there is no public transportation in our area, and we do not have the ability to take him to and from work 100% of the time.

    Our initial plan was to buy him a cheap econobox, so as I said, he's already lucky that he is not getting stuck with a 15 year old civic. lol

    The main reason he got the last Mustang was because Don happened to be doing nothing with it, and gave us a deal on it.

    And in reality, the last car, as well as whatever we end up getting, is actually our car (mine and Lea's). With the understanding that as long as he stays in line it will be signed over to him upon graduation (which we fully expect, as he is a pretty good kid).
    I know this may not be what you want to hear, but take a look at sn95 prices. That's a good indication of what three-ish years is going to do to the value of a new edge. Fox body cars are holding well, if not gaining value. He's a pretty good kid and took a lot of pride in the last one, I expect the same for another one, and he might actually be able to get more for it in a few years. Not that this is any sort of investment, but given the two options and your plan, It's hard not to look at that as a factor.

    BTW, when we ended up with Brent's car, after he paid us to put the engine in, we spent 500 on new tires that it needed pretty badly, and another 800 on body work to make it nice again.

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    There was one that I thought would have been great, but by the time this all happened it was already pretty much stripped to the core, and is gone now. I thought about looking for a roller, since we could swap everything over from the old one, but that get's us back into level of effort and timing issues.

    The comment about the vert was a joke dude, surely you got that. Again, for the price range we are looking at, a decent fox is going to be hard to find. If we can find the right one, awesome, but we aren't going to drag out a search for weeks in the hopes of finding one.

    Yep, cause that's exactly what I said!

    Surely you got that I was just screwing with you, aside from my point about a NE being no better than a fox in the "It's almost 2015" stage of the game. If you can find a true roller than just needs a drivetrain dropped in we could have that done in a couple of hours. Well, you could have it done, while I watch and tell you what you're doing wrong. It's seriously easy as hell. Few electric connectors, a handful of bolts, and you're done. Oh wait, I'm talking to the guy that took 11 hours to do a clutch cable, nevermind....

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  • Chili
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    Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
    lol.
    Is he working, make him save up and pay for the difference. I've had my son working since he was 16 and saving his money for a vehicle. Of course I paid for his Lightning and he paid me (us) back.
    What he can do is accept what we give him, then save as much money as he can, and when he's 18 and graduated he can sell what we gave him, and combine that with any saved money, to buy whatever he wants.

    Our original car purchase plan was that he save up as much as possible, and we would double it. The challenge became him finding a job without a car. We don't have an extra car for him to use, there is no public transportation in our area, and we do not have the ability to take him to and from work 100% of the time.

    Our initial plan was to buy him a cheap econobox, so as I said, he's already lucky that he is not getting stuck with a 15 year old civic. lol

    The main reason he got the last Mustang was because Don happened to be doing nothing with it, and gave us a deal on it.

    And in reality, the last car, as well as whatever we end up getting, is actually our car (mine and Lea's). With the understanding that as long as he stays in line it will be signed over to him upon graduation (which we fully expect, as he is a pretty good kid).

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  • Chili
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    Originally posted by Scott Mc View Post
    Isn't there a clean roller GT for sale here?
    There was one that I thought would have been great, but by the time this all happened it was already pretty much stripped to the core, and is gone now. I thought about looking for a roller, since we could swap everything over from the old one, but that get's us back into level of effort and timing issues.

    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    How would I be biased when I've owned multiple vehicles from both platforms? New Edges had a lot more stuff that could-and would break than a fox. Be prepared at this date to replace the intake and probably all of the coil on plugs at the very least, not even to mention the suspensions will be completely worn out if nothing has been replaced, whereas a fox will likely have had some resto already done on it. Any 5k NE is going to likely need just as much work, but more expensive work, than a 5k fox, providing both cars don't need anything major such as paint work.
    The comment about the vert was a joke dude, surely you got that. Again, for the price range we are looking at, a decent fox is going to be hard to find. If we can find the right one, awesome, but we aren't going to drag out a search for weeks in the hopes of finding one.

    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Unpossible, NE's are too new to require work!
    Yep, cause that's exactly what I said!

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  • Rick Modena
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Unpossible, NE's are too new to require work!
    lol.
    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    Oh, and BTW, this is still a 17 year old that has been driving less than a year. We were ok with the bone stock fox's power levels, but not much more than that. Again, once he's 18 it will be his decision to have a fast car. Until then he will have limitations. Just like the GPS device, which is not optional.. That's the price of getting anything that is even moderately fast.
    Is he working, make him save up and pay for the difference. I've had my son working since he was 16 and saving his money for a vehicle. Of course I paid for his Lightning and he paid me (us) back.

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  • Chili
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    Originally posted by juiceweezl View Post
    I've got a nicely built 2K GT that I'd like to part with, but that $5K number has to go up. PM if interested.
    Our hard limit is on what we got from insurance. We already paid for the first car and the bulk of the repairs over the last 10-11 months. We're not coming out of pocket any more on this purchase. He's actually lucky that we ended up with more than we paid for the first car, but that is the limit of his boon.

    Oh, and BTW, this is still a 17 year old that has been driving less than a year. We were ok with the bone stock fox's power levels, but not much more than that. Again, once he's 18 it will be his decision to have a fast car. Until then he will have limitations. Just like the GPS device, which is not optional.. That's the price of getting anything that is even moderately fast.

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    and Paul had just replaced the engine.

    Unpossible, NE's are too new to require work!

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  • juiceweezl
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Still haven't unloaded that thing? Yours might be a bit much for a HS kid.
    LOL As much as I've had going on in life and work, I haven't even tried to sell it. I plan on making some time to clean it up over Christmas. Yes, it probably is too much for a kid that age. LOL

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by Scott Mc View Post
    Isn't there a clean roller GT for sale here?
    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    I do not want to spend my weekends working on his car, if it can be avoided.


    I wish I still had my 02, I'd sell it to you. I sold it right in your price range last March, and Paul had just replaced the engine. And Eric is right. Anything goes wrong with a new Edge, it's going to be much more costly to fix.

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    Another disadvantage of a fox is that there is a lot more resto-work needed, and the likelihood of breakdown is higher. I do not want to spend my weekends working on his car, if it can be avoided. And any sub $5k fox is likely to necessitate that.

    Besides, I think you might be a bit biased on New Edges based on your experience with your last vert.

    How would I be biased when I've owned multiple vehicles from both platforms? New Edges had a lot more stuff that could-and would break than a fox. Be prepared at this date to replace the intake and probably all of the coil on plugs at the very least, not even to mention the suspensions will be completely worn out if nothing has been replaced, whereas a fox will likely have had some resto already done on it. Any 5k NE is going to likely need just as much work, but more expensive work, than a 5k fox, providing both cars don't need anything major such as paint work.

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  • Scott Mc
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    Isn't there a clean roller GT for sale here?

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by juiceweezl View Post
    I've got a nicely built 2K GT that I'd like to part with, but that $5K number has to go up. PM if interested.
    Still haven't unloaded that thing? Yours might be a bit much for a HS kid.

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  • juiceweezl
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    Originally posted by Chili View Post
    Fox is not off the table, but this is all a huge inconvenience that we need to get resolved sooner than later. Kid needs a cheap car, he's lucky we are on board with keeping him in a Mustang, but this isn't me looking for a project car to build up over time. He can choose and build any car he wants when he's on his own. As it is, top priority is that he gets to and from school, and to and from work.

    Besides, I'm tired of driving the rental and want my Suburban back. lol

    Another disadvantage of a fox is that there is a lot more resto-work needed, and the likelihood of breakdown is higher. I do not want to spend my weekends working on his car, if it can be avoided. And any sub $5k fox is likely to necessitate that.

    Besides, I think you might be a bit biased on New Edges based on your experience with your last vert.
    I've got a nicely built 2K GT that I'd like to part with, but that $5K number has to go up. PM if interested.

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  • Chili
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    That first car DJ posted, the Greenish hatch is decent. Get rid of the dumbass shifter and put a stock hood on it and go. Don't forget that the New Edge cars are getting old. They are a lot more expensive to fix when they break than a foxbody. Do not rush. Tell the insurance company you're going to need at least another week with the rental to find a car. Strong arm them if you need to, the car is in your possession anyway.
    Fox is not off the table, but this is all a huge inconvenience that we need to get resolved sooner than later. Kid needs a cheap car, he's lucky we are on board with keeping him in a Mustang, but this isn't me looking for a project car to build up over time. He can choose and build any car he wants when he's on his own. As it is, top priority is that he gets to and from school, and to and from work.

    Besides, I'm tired of driving the rental and want my Suburban back. lol

    Another disadvantage of a fox is that there is a lot more resto-work needed, and the likelihood of breakdown is higher. I do not want to spend my weekends working on his car, if it can be avoided. And any sub $5k fox is likely to necessitate that.

    Besides, I think you might be a bit biased on New Edges based on your experience with your last vert.

    Hell, I would have taken anything that starts and runs when I was his age. I got dick from my parents, and did not get my first car until 18, and only after 4 months in Basic Training and AIT. I do want him to be better off than I was, but within reason. We're no train engineers or anything.

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  • Chili
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    Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
    We have actually come across that one.

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