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  • #16
    I have a double major from a big school and could have graduated early. I spent a semester studying abroad, and basically was on the team that created the honors program at my school. I was also on a full academic scholarship.

    That being said, a friend of mine in college said it best. The college diploma is not so much related to learning something specific to your degree. He said it's basically a piece of paper that says you're capable of learning at a higher system without someone being there to wipe your ass the whole way. In other words, you have to figure out how to get to class, make the grades, handle a social life, and most likely work part or full time. If you manage to make it through all of that with decent grades, then that piece of paper with a B.S. (or whatever) is a very good indicator that you'll be successful at learning whatever the company that hires you wants to teach you about their business, and you will be less likely to fail because of lack of discipline or motivation.

    I think college is too expensive, but there are a ton of ways to get money out there. That shouldn't be an excuse not to pursue a higher education if you want it. I do think that too many are forced to go when they are likely to fail -- because they have no interest in being there. The world needs people who change oil in a car just as much as it needs someone to be CEO of companies like Microsoft.

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    • #17
      Exactly...I wish the stigma that you have to go to college would go away

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      • #18
        I like the clubs like ffa and 4h.

        Gets kinds into all kinds of things. Heck the neighbor kid learned how to weld and made himself a bunch of coon traps, and bobcat traps.

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        • #19
          If I was advising a young person, I would advise a trade school or junior college. Learn to be a mechanic, welder, plumber, HVAC,etc. Any job done on a computer can be shipped overseas. Plus the above jobs generally keep you out of huge corporations.

          It doesn't make sense to graduate with $50k-100K in debt, just to get a $35K job that may be shipped to India at any moment.

          The greed for short term profits of American corporations is unstoppable. They will lie, cheat & steal, buy congress, manipulate laws to get what they want- they have armies of lawyers & MBA's working late into the night thinking of ways to get every last penny.

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          • #20
            That reminds me of another thing. A degree should never cost more than the entry level salary of the position it will employ

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
              That reminds me of another thing. A degree should never cost more than the entry level salary of the position it will employ
              There are too many variables to make that statement, but I agree with the sentiment.
              Originally posted by davbrucas
              I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

              Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

              You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                • #23
                  That's mighty big talk for a 20 year old highschool junior at a fucking secondary school.
                  ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                    There are too many variables to make that statement, but I agree with the sentiment.
                    Very few of those variables can override that statement but I know where your heads at.

                    Obviously I'm mostly talking about 200K art majors and 50K cosmetic degrees.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                      Very few of those variables can override that statement but I know where your heads at.

                      Obviously I'm mostly talking about 200K art majors and 50K cosmetic degrees.
                      100,000 cash outflow year 0 for an incremental 75k a year 1,2,3, ... n Yeah, I'll take that all fucking day. Again, too many variables, but I agree with the sentiment.
                      Originally posted by davbrucas
                      I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                      Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                      You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                        100,000 cash outflow year 0 for an incremental 75k a year 1,2,3, ... n Yeah, I'll take that all fucking day. Again, too many variables, but I agree with the sentiment.
                        Try your fancy finance terms on someone else...I see right through that veil lol.

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                        • #27
                          Four year education is not for everyone. For some people I know with a four year degree, it was a waste of their time. A history degree and $40k in debt. What are you going to do with that?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TexasDevilDog View Post
                            Four year education is not for everyone. For some people I know with a four year degree, it was a waste of their time. A history degree and $40k in debt. What are you going to do with that?
                            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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