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  • Immortality

    I really wish I could see a few hundred years into the future and see what the human race looks like. Maybe we'll inadvertently cure idiocracy. At any rate, would you want to live forever? Would that rob us of something that is essential to the human condition? People would still die obviously, from accidents, etc.

    World population numbers would explode, draining resources, but that would also increase the amount of scientists working to innovate new technology, perhaps finally giving way to interstellar travel and terraforming. We've gone from the Dark Ages to leaving the planet, and being able to connect every person on the planet, in a geological nanosecond. How cool will the future be?



    The body loses its ability to regulate processes and prevent disease over time, which is why age is a risk factor for many debilitating conditions. However, this might not always be the case. A team of researchers have identified a gene that could be used to stave off senescence. Better yet, the team found a way to remotely activate the gene in a part of the body other than the one they wish to target. The research was led by David Walker of UCLA and the paper was published in Cell Reports.

    AMP-activated protein kinase (AMPK) is an enzyme found in eukaryotic organisms and assists in regulating cellular energy levels. Low energy levels activate AMPK, which synthesizes ATP through fatty acid metabolism and increased glucose uptake.

    Fruit flies that had the gene activated in their intestines lived 30% longer, increasing their lifespan from an average six weeks to eight weeks. This increase didn’t just prolong the flies’ life, but also the quality of it as well. Walker’s team found that the longer-lived fruit flies remained healthier than their control counterparts.

    If similar effects could be seen in humans, that would be equivalent to changing an 80 year life expectancy to 104 years; plus the added bonus of those later years being healthier and less reliant on others.

    "Instead of studying the diseases of aging—Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease, cancer, stroke, cardiovascular disease, diabetes—one by one, we believe it may be possible to intervene in the aging process and delay the onset of many of these diseases," commented Walker in a statement. "We are not there yet, and it could, of course, take many years, but that is our goal and we think it is realistic.

    "The ultimate aim of our research is to promote healthy aging in people.”

    The key to this technique is microautophagy, in which the cell disposes of old or damaged pieces. If this cell waste isn’t removed from the brain, it can potentially build up and cause diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. Clearing out the clutter also protects against other negative effects of aging in other parts of the body. While previous research has shown that AMPK activates autophagy, Walker’s team investigated whether this activity could be boosted.

    Indeed, they discovered that when the AMPK gene is activated in the nervous system of fruit flies, autophagy increased in the gut. Likewise, AMPK activation in the intestines caused increased autophagy in the brain. As it is easier to target the intestines, this would allow scientists to remotely clear out waste products in the brain.

    Fruit flies are an excellent first step in genetic experiments since they have homologues of 75% of the genes that cause human disease. Though the researchers studied over 100,000 fruit flies over the course of this research, the real test will come when using animals whose physiology is closer to humans. A study published in the April 10, 2013 issue of Neuron found a connection between overproduction of AMPK and early signs of Alzheimer’s, so it remains to be seen how this approach will work in more complex organisms.

  • #2
    By the time they figure this out, I'll be about fitzwell's age.





    So, no thanks!
    When the government pays, the government controls.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
      By the time they figure this out, I'll be about fitzwell's age.

      So, no thanks!

      I shudder to think what condition this useless meatsack of a body will be in in ten years.

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      • #4
        Lmao!

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        • #5
          I'm still waiting for an alien invasion.

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          • #6
            I feel this has some X-Files type undertones to it...

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            • #7
              If I were alone, sure. But the idea of seeing friends, family, everyone I love age out and die is just more than I'd be able to cope with.

              I use to have no doubts that living in the mid 100's would be possible in my life, but I'm thinking more and more that our current health care system is fucked and we've peaked.

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              • #8
                I don't think your infrastructure (skeleton) could handle much more than 100, even if you are disease free.

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                • #9
                  No this would be terrible.

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                  • #10
                    Not a chance, I've lived long enough already.

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                    • #11
                      You can't cure idiocracy. You can, however, point out idiocy.
                      ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                      • #12
                        Roy Munson "Hey Herbie, how's life?"

                        Herbie "It's taking forever!"
                        Originally posted by Silverback
                        Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                        • #13
                          I absolutely want to live forever, and want others to as well.

                          Think of human civilization and the progress we've made so far. Think of how much MORE has been hampered by the limits of our biology.

                          Think of how much further along we'd be if once in a generation geniuses like Da Vinci, Newton, Tesla, Einstein, etc. were still around and contributing to science.

                          Think about the intellect and experience destroyed when we die, only to have the next generation spending a third or more of their own lives relearning what has already been learned before they contribute anything to the world, only to have the process repeated.

                          Think of the limits we conciously or unconciously place on society at large due to our inherent limitations:
                          Govt. Debt being taken and rolled over because the consequences are likely to be borne by a future generation, and not ourselves.
                          Lack of long term investment because the true benefits are unlikely to be realized within the lifetime.

                          Think of how the longer lifespan will affect things like the colonization of space, and manned exploration of our arm of the galaxy.

                          Think of how a longer lifespan will allow us to think in the scales of time needed to become a type 1, even a type 2 civilization.

                          I think mastering longevity is the gateway to the next stage of human evolution. This is an exciting time to be alive. To possibly be the first generation to benefit from it is an exciting prospect.
                          Last edited by sc281; 09-10-2014, 06:56 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
                            Roy Munson "Hey Herbie, how's life?"

                            Herbie "It's taking forever!"

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                            • #15
                              Could you imagine being 150 years old and having sex!

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