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Parents consider legal action after South Dakota police use Taser on 8-year-old girl
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BY M. ALEX JOHNSON, STAFF WRITER
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE
A 2011 report on police use of Tasers by the U.S. Justice Department's National Institute of Justice said Taser use on children "should be avoided." Click the cover to read the full report in .pdf form.
The parents of an 8-year-old South Dakota girl want the police officer who stunned their daughter with a Taser disciplined, but the police chief said Wednesday that the officer acted properly and may have saved the little girl's life.
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Pierre Police Chief Bob Grandpre told Dakota Radio Group News that the incident happened Friday night after a baby-sitter called to report that the girl had stabbed herself in the leg and was making comments about suicide.
The girl — whose identity hasn't been released because she is a juvenile — was holding a 4½-inch knife and refused to put it down when the three officers arrived, he said.
Grandpre said the child had the tip of the knife to her chest and then moved toward a hallway that could have taken her out of the officers' sight, posing a potential threat.
When one of the officers approached her, the girl pointed the knife at the officer and then back at herself, Grandpre said. That's when the officer used the Taser, whose prongs lodged in her chest and stomach, Grandpre said.
"We have a juvenile that's threatening to kill themselves, and we have very few options that they had to run through, so they made the decision to disarm the juvenile for the safety of all involved," he said. "Our initial review is it looks like we followed our department policy and training."
The girl — who medical personnel said showed no stab wounds on her leg — was observed for a few hours and released to the custody of her parents. The conduct of the officer — who also hasn't been identified — remains under review and he remains on the job.
Grandpre told the Argus Leader newspaper of Sioux Falls that "we can't control if the threat is 8 or 80" and said the Taser was the least forceful way to get the girl under control.
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"He quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," he told the newspaper.
But the girl's parents were incensed, saying they were considering suing the police department.
The girl's mother, Dawn Stenstrom, said her daughter, who was being supervised by a babysitter that night, was merely playing around with a small paring knife.
"How much harm could she have done?" Stenstrom asked in an interview with the Argus-Leader, adding that the girl had never before had to be physically restrained.
Bobby Jones, the girl's father, told the newspaper: "Tasers are for grown adults, not 8-year-old girls. They say it was for her own safety, but there is no justification for that.
"Her acting out got her tased," he said.
Grandpre said in the radio interview that he had spoken with both parents and understood their concerns.
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"As a parent, I get that," he said. "This is an unusual set of circumstances."
The chief confirmed that Pierre police had never before used a Taser on someone so young and added: "I understand why there's a lot of attention to this, and there should be."
"We don't get to choose the situations we get called to, and the officers do the best they can when they are to make sure there's a positive outcome," he said.
Tasers — which aren't classified as firearms and regulated under federal weapons laws — use a brief jolt of high electrical current to incapacitate a subject. They're considered among law enforcement agencies to be a much safer and less-forceful way to subdue a subject than traditional firearms.
But in a 2011 report on police use of Tasers and other so-called nonlethal weapons (.pdf), the U.S. Justice Department's National Institute of Justice said Taser safety data "may not be applicable to small children." It said using Tasers on children "should be avoided, but may be necessary if conditions exclude other reasonable choices."
First published October 9th 2013, 5:14 pm
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lolz at people scared of an 8yr old. id prolly walk up really slow and speak in a soft, calming voice and slap the fuck out of her. pick the knife up, hand it to the mom and dad then go reward myself with a couple of bearclaws.
god bless.It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass
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Hilarious that anyone would advocate using a taser on a kid. I have seen it all now.Originally posted by racrguyWhat's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?Originally posted by racrguyVoting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.
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Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View PostI'd be interesting in the time frame things happened, part of me thinks they walked in the door and tased her out of laziness.
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Originally posted by jewozzy View PostI'd probably tase her too. Why should I risk getting cut just because its an 8 year old girl? Are 8 year old girls incapable of cutting people?
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Originally posted by ELVIS View Postlolz at people scared of an 8yr old. id prolly walk up really slow and speak in a soft, calming voice and slap the fuck out of her. pick the knife up, hand it to the mom and dad then go reward myself with a couple of bearclaws.
god bless.Originally posted by talismanI wonder if there will be a new character that specializes in bjj and passive agressive comebacks?Originally posted by AdamLXIf there was, I wouldn't pick it because it would probably just keep leaving the game and then coming back like nothing happened.Originally posted by BroncojohnnyBecause fuck you, that's whyOriginally posted by 80coupenice dick, Idrivea4bangerOriginally posted by Rick Modena......and idrivea4banger is a real person.Originally posted by JesterMan ive always wanted to smoke a bowl with you. Just seem like a cool cat.
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostHilarious that anyone would advocate using a taser on a kid. I have seen it all now.
Originally posted by talisman View PostThis isn't much of a rebuttal unless you're trying to draw a parallel between 4 or 5 adults and a 4 year old.
Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostLike I said...if this girl successfully kills herself the cops would still be blamed. It's good to know everyone is 100% certain that the girl wasn't going to turn the corner and harm herself.
Originally posted by ftp View PostIf you can't contain a 8 year old you shouldn't be a cop. If you're so fucking worried about "risk" you should retire you fucking pussy.
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